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  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepers View Post
    I,m Slowly getting this....
    Alphanumeric...I downloaded Windows 8 Pro from Microsoft ( not the Windows Store ) using the code on the upgrade offer i got when i bought the Laptop and afterwards ordered the Windows 8 Discs from them.
    I have a retail Windows 8 key and have all ready downloaded the 8.1 iso to DVD, I have a fully activated Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center that i'm using on the Laptop now.

    So if i am reading this right the recovery partition on the HDD is still a Windows 7 , if so its no good to me now that i have 8.1 installed, so it should be safe to delete it......? I also have a 3.05Gb ESD folder on the C: drive and i should be able to delete that as well....?. If i have to reinstall Windows for any reason i can use the 8.1 DVD cant i....?

    I was quite happy using Windows and Creating a recovery disc whenever i upgraded, until now, Microsoft have changed the way of upgrading the O/S and seen not fit to allow users to create recovery media.

    cheers
    Jeepers
    The 3.05Gb ESD folder is the Recovery media.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeepers View Post
    I,m Slowly getting this....
    Alphanumeric...I downloaded Windows 8 Pro from Microsoft ( not the Windows Store ) using the code on the upgrade offer i got when i bought the Laptop and afterwards ordered the Windows 8 Discs from them.
    I have a retail Windows 8 key and have all ready downloaded the 8.1 iso to DVD, I have a fully activated Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center that i'm using on the Laptop now.

    So if i am reading this right the recovery partition on the HDD is still a Windows 7 , if so its no good to me now that i have 8.1 installed, so it should be safe to delete it......? I also have a 3.05Gb ESD folder on the C: drive and i should be able to delete that as well....?. If i have to reinstall Windows for any reason i can use the 8.1 DVD cant i....?

    I was quite happy using Windows and Creating a recovery disc whenever i upgraded, until now, Microsoft have changed the way of upgrading the O/S and seen not fit to allow users to create recovery media.

    cheers
    Jeepers
    If you've burned the 8.1 DVD, yes you can delete the ESD folder. Your factory recovery partition is useless too so it can go. If you buy a Retail version of Windows your DVD is your recovery media. If your Windows is pre installed OEM, its up to the OEM manufacturer to provide recovery media or a means of creating the recovery media. You can clean install 8.1 from the DVD, just keep in mind that it won't accept your 8 product code for installation. You'll have to install with a generic 8.1 code and then activate with your 8 code. Activate retail Windows 8.1 with Windows 8 Product key.
    Hells Teeth why is Microsoft making it so difficult to do things, Thanks for the link i copied the generic key for 8.1 Pro, now i'm going to print them all and put them somewhere safe.

    I ran the Toshiba Recovery Media creator and it said it could not find a Recovery partition on the HDD, so i guess the upgrade to Windows 8 did upgrade the Partition.
    cheers
    Jeepers
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  3. #13


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    so i guess the upgrade to Windows 8 did upgrade the Partition.
    NO, Windows 8 made the Recovery Partition UNUSEABLE.
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  4. #14


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    Windows 8.1


    Double post....
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  5. #15


    Portsmouth Hants
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    You may be able to use the recovery partition after all.
    Install a boot extender like Plop Boot, or the version that comes with EasyBCD.
    The boot extender allows you to boot from any partition.
    If your recovery partition is the first partition, it will contain a bootloader to load a WinPE MININT to a ramdisk and start the recovery process. Even if it is a hidden OEM type partition, it will still boot. The first thing it does is wipe the MBR on Active Partition 2 in advance of formatting and writing a factory image to the drive. So if you do do this, either mean it to perform a system recovery, or be prepared to spend time in repairing the Windows 8 installation that will be damaged.
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  6. #16


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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by jeepers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by David Bailey View Post
    You could image your drives & avoid all that.

    Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download
    I have Macrium (Free) installed, but i all i want is some sort Rescue/Recovery DVD, i did an Image of my drive and it was 72Gb. I have 3 partitions - a 1.4Gb System partition (with no drive letter) a 64Gb partition( C: ) and a 10Gb Recovery partition (no drive letter).

    If i just copied the 1.4Gb and the 10GB partitions to a 16Gb USB drive, would that allow me to do a clean install if something went wrong with my HDD and i had to format and reinstall.
    cheers
    Jeepers
    No.
    You need to image ALL your local drives.

    I just had a major problem.
    I was installing a backup of my drives & the computer came unplugged.
    That really screwed things up.

    I had a system repair DVD I had made & booted from it.
    I got recovery options.

    After hours & hours of trying to get it to boot normally, I accidentally left the Reflect image usb in the port & tried rebooting with the repair DVD & clicked on the Macrium option again & it finally worked.

    I installed the full backup image with success.
    I then clicked the option to fix boot up issues & it prompted me to restart.

    Everything is back to normal now.

    This was a nightmare.
    Without the full Macrium backup image & the fix boot up problems option, I would be very,very sad.

    One lesson learned is to check on the power cords & such to make sure they are firmly plugged in before operating your computer.
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