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Win8.1 on reboot like it's newly installed + empty metro

  1. #1


    Posts : 5
    Win 8.1 x64 Pro

    Win8.1 on reboot like it's newly installed + empty metro


    Hello,
    I have an issue with Win8.1 Pro x64. I have upgraded from 8. About every 5-6 days after I turn on my laptop, Win8 behaves like it was just newly installed. By that I mean that after I login into the system I get a screen with "We're setting things up for you" and messages about installing apps from the store. After that finishes, an empty metro screen is displayed. Then, after I choose to reboot, system starts OK.

    This does not happen every reboot, approximately on every fifth/sixth.
    Is there a way how to fix this? I find it extremely annoying when I have to wait about 5 minutes just to do another reboot. And what if one day it does not reboot correctly from the empty screen?

    Thanks in advance!

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  2. #2


    Posts : 1,121
    Windows 8.1 x64


    What you are seeing appears to be exactly what you might see if you had set your system to use a CustomRefresh.wim image to reset your system. Since it does not contain some files as noted below, it appears your system is missing those files during boot or possibly even booting to another image or repair version of an image. But just speculating right now.

    Are you getting any messages that would make you think Windows is going into some type of Repair situation?

    If it continues, you might check the list below and see if you can think of any reason those files might not be loaded during the problem boot instances.

    Recovery images do not contain your documents, personal settings, user profiles, or apps from Windows Store,
    because that information is preserved at the time you refresh your PC.
    If you want, you might run the command below in an administrative command prompt. You could zip the resulting text file and attach, or just list it if you want. Maybe someone will see something relevant to this problem.

    bcdedit /enum all > %userprofile%\Desktop\BCDtext.txt
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  3. #3


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    It's loading a TEMPORARY PROFILE on you at random intervals.

    Do what Saltgrass Suggests, and use "Code" (#) to wrap code tags around it, then we can slide up and down looking through it.

    If the Temp Profile takes over, you will have to rebuild your User Account, it's not that hard but you can only do it from within Admin Safe Mode.
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  4. #4


    Posts : 5
    Win 8.1 x64 Pro


    Thanks, I haven't set any CustomRefresh.wim.
    Also, when I got empty screen, only thing I have there is my account photo in upper right corner - can be this still temp account?

    Output of bcdedit I ran on my PC is here:


    Code:
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier              {bootmgr}
    device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    description             Windows Boot Manager
    locale                  sk-SK
    inherit                 {globalsettings}
    integrityservices       Enable
    default                 {current}
    resumeobject            {be6c3aac-375a-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    displayorder            {current}
    toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
    timeout                 30
    
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {5aea2518-375b-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    device                  ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{5aea2519-375b-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    path                    \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows Recovery Environment
    locale                  sk-SK
    inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
    displaymessage          Recovery
    displaymessageoverride  Recovery
    osdevice                ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{5aea2519-375b-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    systemroot              \windows
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    winpe                   Yes
    
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {current}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \WINDOWS\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows 8.1
    locale                  sk-SK
    inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence        {5aea2518-375b-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    integrityservices       Enable
    recoveryenabled         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice                partition=C:
    systemroot              \WINDOWS
    resumeobject            {be6c3aac-375a-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {ea4e3749-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    device                  ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\ea4e3749-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf\Winre.wim,{ea4e374a-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    path                    \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows Recovery Environment
    inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
    osdevice                ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\ea4e3749-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf\Winre.wim,{ea4e374a-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    systemroot              \windows
    nx                      OptIn
    winpe                   Yes
    
    
    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier              {ea4e374d-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    device                  ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\ea4e374d-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf\Winre.wim,{ea4e374e-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    path                    \windows\system32\winload.exe
    description             Windows Recovery Environment
    locale                  sk-SK
    inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
    displaymessage          Recovery
    displaymessageoverride  Recovery
    osdevice                ramdisk=[C:]\Recovery\ea4e374d-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf\Winre.wim,{ea4e374e-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    systemroot              \windows
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    winpe                   Yes
    
    
    Resume from Hibernate
    ---------------------
    identifier              {be6c3aac-375a-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \WINDOWS\system32\winresume.exe
    description             Windows Resume Application
    locale                  sk-SK
    inherit                 {resumeloadersettings}
    recoverysequence        {5aea2518-375b-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    recoveryenabled         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    filedevice              partition=C:
    filepath                \hiberfil.sys
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    debugoptionenabled      No
    
    
    Resume from Hibernate
    ---------------------
    identifier              {ea4e374b-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \Windows\system32\winresume.exe
    description             Windows Resume Application
    locale                  sk-SK
    inherit                 {resumeloadersettings}
    recoverysequence        {ea4e374d-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    recoveryenabled         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    filedevice              partition=C:
    filepath                \hiberfil.sys
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    debugoptionenabled      No
    
    
    Windows Memory Tester
    ---------------------
    identifier              {memdiag}
    device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    path                    \boot\memtest.exe
    description             Windows Memory Diagnostic
    locale                  sk-SK
    inherit                 {globalsettings}
    badmemoryaccess         Yes
    
    
    EMS Settings
    ------------
    identifier              {emssettings}
    bootems                 No
    
    
    Debugger Settings
    -----------------
    identifier              {dbgsettings}
    debugtype               Serial
    debugport               1
    baudrate                115200
    
    
    RAM Defects
    -----------
    identifier              {badmemory}
    
    
    Global Settings
    ---------------
    identifier              {globalsettings}
    inherit                 {dbgsettings}
                            {emssettings}
                            {badmemory}
    
    
    Boot Loader Settings
    --------------------
    identifier              {bootloadersettings}
    inherit                 {globalsettings}
                            {hypervisorsettings}
    
    
    Hypervisor Settings
    -------------------
    identifier              {hypervisorsettings}
    hypervisordebugtype     Serial
    hypervisordebugport     1
    hypervisorbaudrate      115200
    
    
    Resume Loader Settings
    ----------------------
    identifier              {resumeloadersettings}
    inherit                 {globalsettings}
    
    
    Device options
    --------------
    identifier              {5aea2519-375b-11e3-923e-8c86d35a0c5e}
    description             Windows Recovery
    ramdisksdidevice        partition=C:
    ramdisksdipath          \Recovery\WindowsRE\boot.sdi
    
    
    Device options
    --------------
    identifier              {ea4e374a-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    description             Ramdisk Options
    ramdisksdidevice        partition=C:
    ramdisksdipath          \Recovery\ea4e3749-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf\boot.sdi
    
    
    Device options
    --------------
    identifier              {ea4e374e-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    description             Windows Recovery
    ramdisksdidevice        partition=C:
    ramdisksdipath          \Recovery\ea4e374d-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf\boot.sdi
    
    
    Device options
    --------------
    identifier              {ea4e374f-9460-11e0-a8ab-c59eff6bbdbf}
    description             Windows Setup
    ramdisksdidevice        partition=C:
    ramdisksdipath          \$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\SafeOS\boot.sdi
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  5. #5


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    It will usually notify you that a TEMP Profile is loaded - But you can check this by going into your USERS folder and looking for a user named "Temp" - If there is one, then you need to re-create your local user profile. So if you are using an MS account to log in, change it to a LOCAL account, then create a new Local account, and you can move all of your corrupted user folders into the new account folder.

    Since Temp Profile is a vista problem that exists in Windows 7 and 8, the tutorial is in the Vista boards. and I'll have to look up the link
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  6. #6


    Posts : 5
    Win 8.1 x64 Pro


    I don't have Temp folder ic C:\Users. I'm using MS account to log in to Windows 8, not a local account.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 1,121
    Windows 8.1 x64


    I don't see anything that sticks out in your BCD store listing, except for one part which I have to check on my Legacy Install. You are not showing a path entry in the Boot Manager, but it may not be required. You do have many unused entries, but those should be OK.

    Your situation, to me, seems to be a little different in that you can log in. I was under the impression that if your User Profile was not loading at all, you would not be able log on, but I could be mistaken.

    I do agree, that since you are using the Online account, there might be some sort of network situation. Perhaps switching to a local account for a while might help clear things up. I think I would hold off on changing your user folders around, at least until the local account showed the same symptoms.
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Win8.1 on reboot like it's newly installed + empty metro
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