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What we are REALLY getting with Windows 8

  1. #1


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    What we are REALLY getting with Windows 8


    1. Windows 8 will be compatible with the tablets. This is the most expected function, which will support touch screen optimization and bring the Win 8 users more entire Windows experience.

    2. Ending BSoD. Microsoft will cancel the disgustful BSod, while the screen will hint the users of Blue Screen of Death when the earlier version of Windows 8 crashes and needs reboot. But Whether the BSoD will not appear or not in the final windows 8 is still a myth.

    3. Windows 8 Appstore similar to Mac. But recently, some evidences show that the screenshots of the Windows 8 Appstore are fake. But it does not mean Win 8 will certainly not to add such applications.

    4. Logon with password by touching. Many phenomena show that windows 8 will be similar to Android to have the function of logon the system by touching. Users have to preset the password manually while not entering the password on the keyboard. If the Win 8 supports the tablets, this function will be strong enough.

    5. Facial recognition logon. With this function, the users can log on the system easily through the camera.

    6. Boot with outlay driver. Some media reported that users will use 16GB outlay driver (including USB driver) to up load windows 8 OS. Any computer can be used to up load the windows 8 professional.

    7. Ribbon toolbar on Windows browser. Windows 8 may adopt the toolbar similar to the Ribbon Toolbar of Office 2007, for the computer files and guiding function optimization.

    8. New logon interface similar to Windows Phone. Though it is similar to Windows Phone, but Win 8 will be more advanced.

    9. New task manager will manage the application programs. It is said by the WinRumors that Windows 8 has added the new task manager, which will help the user to judge which app is taking up the RAM and CPU. And it is conducive for the users to close the app making the computer busy and extend the battery using time of the laptops.

    10. Synchronization of online ID setting. Windows 8 can help the user to set online ID and save all the user settings, parameter choosing, website collection by the users, etc. in the cloud storage. Then the user can logon with any computer on Windows 8 operating system to use their familiar settings.

    That's the top ten I have found to date, can anyone add some more to this list?
    Should it REALLY be called Windows 8, or Windows 7 SE?

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  2. #2


    Posts : 162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    1. Windows 8 will be compatible with the tablets. This is the most expected function, which will support touch screen optimization and bring the Win 8 users more entire Windows experience.

    2. Ending BSoD. Microsoft will cancel the disgustful BSod, while the screen will hint the users of Blue Screen of Death when the earlier version of Windows 8 crashes and needs reboot. But Whether the BSoD will not appear or not in the final windows 8 is still a myth.

    3. Windows 8 Appstore similar to Mac. But recently, some evidences show that the screenshots of the Windows 8 Appstore are fake. But it does not mean Win 8 will certainly not to add such applications.

    4. Logon with password by touching. Many phenomena show that windows 8 will be similar to Android to have the function of logon the system by touching. Users have to preset the password manually while not entering the password on the keyboard. If the Win 8 supports the tablets, this function will be strong enough.

    5. Facial recognition logon. With this function, the users can log on the system easily through the camera.

    6. Boot with outlay driver. Some media reported that users will use 16GB outlay driver (including USB driver) to up load windows 8 OS. Any computer can be used to up load the windows 8 professional.

    7. Ribbon toolbar on Windows browser. Windows 8 may adopt the toolbar similar to the Ribbon Toolbar of Office 2007, for the computer files and guiding function optimization.

    8. New logon interface similar to Windows Phone. Though it is similar to Windows Phone, but Win 8 will be more advanced.

    9. New task manager will manage the application programs. It is said by the WinRumors that Windows 8 has added the new task manager, which will help the user to judge which app is taking up the RAM and CPU. And it is conducive for the users to close the app making the computer busy and extend the battery using time of the laptops.

    10. Synchronization of online ID setting. Windows 8 can help the user to set online ID and save all the user settings, parameter choosing, website collection by the users, etc. in the cloud storage. Then the user can logon with any computer on Windows 8 operating system to use their familiar settings.

    That's the top ten I have found to date, can anyone add some more to this list?
    Should it REALLY be called Windows 8, or Windows 7 SE?
    I have discussed all the problems with Win8 in other postings but since you raised the issue of the Metro-style apps in the "Start Screen" let me say that these are not "more advanced" in any way. These "Metro-style" apps utilize a different code base than WP7/7.5. Thus WP7/7.5 apps will not run on the new "Start Screen". Which means that WP8 would likely transition to this code base and that WP7/7.5 will soon be orphaned. Ridiculous
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  3. #3


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    Windows 8 pro Retail


    ADRz as I have as well talked in other threads, this top ten list is just basically stating that to myself this is NOT a desktop
    update to Windows desktop per-se, more so a move by Microsoft into the tablet foray. EVERYTHING I am looking at, would IMO feel more at home on a tablet, MS phone, than a desktop, or a laptop. Which also has me thinking that the long awaited MS Courier, and the current Acer Iconia 6120 would benefit from this type of operating system. Sure it will work with desktops/laptops BUT as I said in that other thread I am thinking this is a move by Microsoft to get the road warriors market added to their other computing devices. A example of such, the Xbox was Microsoft's foray into the game hardware/software arena, and as far as the numbers on that go it has taken the lead from Sony, and Nintendo in that area. Personally with the introduction to 3D TV coming next, I can see the Microsoft 3D TV hitting the scene next.
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  4. #4


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    Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9


    I hate the ribbon on Windows Explorer. It just made Windows Explorer bulky on top and when you hide it, it hides the important buttons as well. Ribbon might have done well with Office but it has no place on Windows Explorer!

    I could add a few things on your list:

    1. Better backup management. If you go to the non-Metro Control Panel, check out File History. Its a cool thing that automatically backs up you files to another drive.

    2. System Refresh and System Reset. If you go to the non-Metro Control Panel, check them out on the Recovery settings. With the Refresh thing, the computer can be put back to its original state without losing your files and System Reset, its supposed to "reset" things that you should do if youre giving away your computer, not sure what it does. But when I tried them, they are apparently disabled. Dunno why.

    3. 16 Bit Application Support. It can be enabled in the non-Metro Control Panel as well.

    4. Hyper-V Support. If you go to Programs and Features then to "Turn Windows Features on or off" you can enable Hyper-V because its disabled by default and I don't know why.

    5. IE 10. Well, its "almost" similar to IE 9, but it still has a few bugs like when I'm typing something on the chat panel on Facebook, I have to press the keys hard cause some letters won't appear. The advantages of IE 10 over IE 9 is that it shows your commonly visited sites if you open a new tab and if anyone else has noticed this before, IE 10 finally has a native spelling checker! After so many years, Microsoft!

    6. Performance Improvements. Though, this may not be noticeable on systems with rather good specs, Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7 and it boots and shuts down faster too than its predecessor. Windows 8 isn't done yet so there may not be as many background processes running in it. Its these processes that make the startup slower and the shutdown slower too because they needed to be terminated on shutdown. I have Windows 7 and Windows 8, dual booted in the same machine, I installed Call Of Duty game on a shared partition. Both Windows 7 and Windows 8 are running it in compatibility mode for Windows XP SP2. I kinda noticed that Windows 8 somehow, is faster in restoring its Desktop to normal state after I closed Call of Duty. It takes a bit more time for Windows 7 to recover its Desktop after I closed Call Of Duty which is a bit of an old game and sometimes Windows Explorer would even freeze and restart on Windows 7 after I closed that game. This never happened on Windows 8. It may be an indication that Windows 8 is slighlty better in handling applications and crashes though I have not yet found any other examples to prove this.
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    Windows 8 pro Retail


    Thank you Vertex for the contribution
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  6. #6


    Posts : 203
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    16 Bit Application Support is only supported in 32-Bit version of Windows this is how it's been since Vista. If you're going with Windows 8 64-Bit then you loose 16-Bit support and I can't see why anyone with a desktop or laptop would want to upgrade to a 32-Bit version of Windows 8 unless you've got a Windows tablet like the Acer W500 or really old laptop that can only handle 2GB ram maximum.
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    Windows 8 pro Retail


    I personality cannot SEE a reason WHATSOEVER to need 16 bit support in the first place.
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  8. #8


    Posts : 162
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    ADRz as I have as well talked in other threads, this top ten list is just basically stating that to myself this is NOT a desktop
    update to Windows desktop per-se, more so a move by Microsoft into the tablet foray. EVERYTHING I am looking at, would IMO feel more at home on a tablet, MS phone, than a desktop, or a laptop. Which also has me thinking that the long awaited MS Courier, and the current Acer Iconia 6120 would benefit from this type of operating system. Sure it will work with desktops/laptops BUT as I said in that other thread I am thinking this is a move by Microsoft to get the road warriors market added to their other computing devices. A example of such, the Xbox was Microsoft's foray into the game hardware/software arena, and as far as the numbers on that go it has taken the lead from Sony, and Nintendo in that area. Personally with the introduction to 3D TV coming next, I can see the Microsoft 3D TV hitting the scene next.
    The problem to what you are saying is quite simple: 99.999% of all Windows installations are in the desktop/laptop area. There are hardly any Windows tablets to speak of. Thus, your comparisons should be with the dominant OSes in this area, not with Windows itself. Thus, what I (and most others) need to know is what would be the use of Win8 tablets when compared to those running iOS 5.0 or Android 4.0. Do you have any functional experience with these OSes???

    All your comparisons/improvements are with the previous desktop versions of Windows and then you are asking me not to make any further comments because all of these are directed to tablets!!!!!
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  9. #9


    Posts : 162
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
    I hate the ribbon on Windows Explorer. It just made Windows Explorer bulky on top and when you hide it, it hides the important buttons as well. Ribbon might have done well with Office but it has no place on Windows Explorer!

    I could add a few things on your list:

    1. Better backup management. If you go to the non-Metro Control Panel, check out File History. Its a cool thing that automatically backs up you files to another drive.

    2. System Refresh and System Reset. If you go to the non-Metro Control Panel, check them out on the Recovery settings. With the Refresh thing, the computer can be put back to its original state without losing your files and System Reset, its supposed to "reset" things that you should do if youre giving away your computer, not sure what it does. But when I tried them, they are apparently disabled. Dunno why.

    3. 16 Bit Application Support. It can be enabled in the non-Metro Control Panel as well.

    4. Hyper-V Support. If you go to Programs and Features then to "Turn Windows Features on or off" you can enable Hyper-V because its disabled by default and I don't know why.

    5. IE 10. Well, its "almost" similar to IE 9, but it still has a few bugs like when I'm typing something on the chat panel on Facebook, I have to press the keys hard cause some letters won't appear. The advantages of IE 10 over IE 9 is that it shows your commonly visited sites if you open a new tab and if anyone else has noticed this before, IE 10 finally has a native spelling checker! After so many years, Microsoft!

    6. Performance Improvements. Though, this may not be noticeable on systems with rather good specs, Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7 and it boots and shuts down faster too than its predecessor. Windows 8 isn't done yet so there may not be as many background processes running in it. Its these processes that make the startup slower and the shutdown slower too because they needed to be terminated on shutdown. I have Windows 7 and Windows 8, dual booted in the same machine, I installed Call Of Duty game on a shared partition. Both Windows 7 and Windows 8 are running it in compatibility mode for Windows XP SP2. I kinda noticed that Windows 8 somehow, is faster in restoring its Desktop to normal state after I closed Call of Duty. It takes a bit more time for Windows 7 to recover its Desktop after I closed Call Of Duty which is a bit of an old game and sometimes Windows Explorer would even freeze and restart on Windows 7 after I closed that game. This never happened on Windows 8. It may be an indication that Windows 8 is slighlty better in handling applications and crashes though I have not yet found any other examples to prove this.
    Again, all of these are valid if you are discussing Win8 in the desktop. If you want to evaluate how good Win8 would be in tablets, then you need to compare it to iOS 5.0 and Android 4.0. Then you can tell me what the performance is in these machines vs. the leading OSes in that area.

    I am not going to buy a tablet simply because it runs Win8. In fact, I am strongly predisposed to purchase an ICS (Android 4.0) tablet as I believe that the interface in ICS is superior to that of Win8 (and the multitasking is more robust). Why would I want a Win8 tablet??? Nobody can provide any answer to this at this time in this forum.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    ADRz, no one is telling you that. BUT from what I am seeing, it SEEMS as though MS is heading to the tablet arena. (To myself as least) I agree with you, if you are currently happy with your current tablet O/S then stay with it. With the 2 tablets I mention,
    it appears that Windows 8 would be at home on them. I see this as being a better fit for Windows 8 than a desktop/laptop enviroment.
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