Upgrade to 8.1?

carloxp

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Good morning
I'm still undecided if upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1.
Windows 8 works well for me.
What is your opinion?
Are there reasons for migrating to 8.1?
Thank you!
Carlo
 

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The only problem I am having with 8.1 is my third monitor seems to be in a 1440 x 900 mode instead of 1920 x 1080 which is very annoying. Other then that all is good. (. . .and yes I have up dated all drivers).
 

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    HP Pavilion p1423w
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    Intel Core i5 3330 Ivy Bridge
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    Foxconn - 2ADA Ivy Brige
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    16 GB 1066MHz DDR3
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    Microsoft Optical Mouse 5000
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    Firefox 19.1
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    MSE-Defender
For some the update from 8 to 8.1 has been good,but for others it's been a nightmare of problems. It's just a crap shoot as to what someone gets on their computer. One item I have found is some programs will need their drivers updated after the upgrade.
 

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Why not just make a backup image first and then install 8.1 and try it out for a bit. No like? RESTORE the image.
My upgrade went on flawlessly and am glad I upgraded even though the new features are not really used by me.

Rich
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
For some the update from 8 to 8.1 has been good,but for others it's been a nightmare of problems. It's just a crap shoot as to what someone gets on their computer. One item I have found is some programs will need their drivers updated after the upgrade.
I would recommend that anyone wanting to upgrade to 8.1 check with there manufactures websites for updated drivers and have them downloaded prior to attempting the upgrade. For me it was just a wireless driver and a audio drivers. The only issues I found was trying to track down all those default programs opening metro apps, and changing them all to open my desktop programs. I have all the metro crap turned off, lock screen turn off, and boot to log in and my desktop. Just a better win 7 for me
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro MC
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    Asus G75VW / Z97 Pro
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    Intel Core i7-3610QM / I7-4790K
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    Z97 Pro
    Memory
    16 GB Hyundai HTM315156CFR8C-PB PC3-12800
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    nVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M (GF114M)
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    VIA 6.0.10.1600
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    1080
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    30 down 3 up
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    Explorer 11
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    NIS and Malwarebytes
For many of us, it might be more of "can I afford it" than "do I really need it".

If it's just for fun, and you CAN afford it, then by all means it can be fun, to try something new.
But PLEASE, do as was suggested and back up your Win-8.0 install to a removable media, before installing 8.1.

Win 8.1 is not just an update....it's a NEW OS. Think of it more like Windows 9 or something.

It has some serious changes to the Core code, and won't install or run on some PC's that ran 8.0 successfully.
I've already run into that coincidink here on a PC of my own. Thank goodness, I had 8.0/64 backed up.

Good Luck!
TM :cool:
 

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    Acer
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    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64
Are there reasons for migrating to 8.1?

Microsoft originally announced they would only support 8.0 (monthly updates/fixes) for a year after 8.1 was released, but I believe that time has been extended into 2015 now.
 

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    Custom
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    AMD FX-8350
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    Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0
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    16 GB Viper 3 DDR3-2133
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    Realtek HD
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    15
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Hi all
THANK YOU very much for your replies! I love eightforums :)

You all have right.

I'm a web developer, my machine is enough powerful (AMD 64 bit, 6 cores, 16 GB memory) for my needs. I often open lot of huge programs at same time (Aptana, SmartFTP, lot of Fw tabs, for example) and Windows 8 works well.

I have read a lot about Windows 8.1 features, but I not found a single feature that I really need.

Now, my question is: Win8.1 has features that I miss in Windows8? Software developers will support Win8 in the future?

Win8 can be considered just a bridge, temporary OS between WinXP and Win8.1?
 

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  • OS
    Win 8
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD 64 6 cores
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    16 GB
Windows 8 is supported for 2 years from October 18 2013, now that 8.1 is on General Availability.

Microsoft is rapidly removing most references to Windows 8 and replacing them with 8.1 on web pages that are not specifically about upgrading.

If you can upgrade, it is advisable. If you cannot, Windows 8 will continue to receive updates for 2 years.

Lifecycle information is here Microsoft Product Lifecycle Search
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
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    HP COMPAQ Presario CQ57
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    AMD E- 300 APU with Radion HD Graphics 1.30GHz
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    inbuilt
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    4GB
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    ATI
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    High Definition Audio on-board
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    notebook
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    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes
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    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
As for differences, other than the obviously ability to minimize the Metro stuff, I'm aware of two:

1. DirectX 11.2 will not run on anything older than 8.1. Probably only of interest to gamers.

2. Only 8.1 supports CMPXCHG16b, whatever that is.

To me it is obvious that Microsoft has no interest in supporting 8.0 and just wants it to go away. I'm sure internally they are embarrassed by it and want to move on. My plan is to wait a few months until I am convinced my BIOS, Graphics card, and other drivers fully support 8.1. I will then upgrade the drivers to the latest available version and go to 8.1.
 

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    AMD FX-8350
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    16 GB Viper 3 DDR3-2133
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    HIS Radeon HD 7770
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    Antec 550
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    CM Storm Quickfire XT Brn - wired PS/2
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    Roccat Lua - wired USB
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    15
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    IE10
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    MS Defender
What we will be seeing is Microsoft trying again and again, to get a flawed operating system to work. 8.1 8.1.01 8.2 you get my drift. What Windows 8 was and is is a way for Microsoft to sell a new operation system make lots of money,this they have done. Are most users getting any real advantage from this "Great" leap forward from Microsoft? IMHO no.:p
 

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    Laptop
Lot of replies to fully understand :D

I will create a small partition and I will install an eval copy of 8.1.

What is still unclear for me is: assuming that I will upgrade, I really have advantages in upgrading now?

Sometimes I think that "Win8.1 is a Win8.0 Service Pack 1"... Can this be considered true?

Thank you
 

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  • OS
    Win 8
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD 64 6 cores
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    16 GB
What we will be seeing is Microsoft trying again and again, to get a flawed operating system to work. 8.1 8.1.01 8.2 you get my drift. What Windows 8 was and is is a way for Microsoft to sell a new operation system make lots of money,this they have done. Are most users getting any real advantage from this "Great" leap forward from Microsoft? IMHO no.:p

I agree with you. This is why I written this post ;)
 

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    Win 8
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    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD 64 6 cores
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    16 GB
Carlo,

In the long run, you would be better off to update to 8.1.

Updating to 8.1 is essentially the same as upgrading an operating system (ex: W7 to W8). It's not just a simple service pack update. :)
 

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  • OS
    64-bit Windows 10
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
Completely agree with Brink on the upgrade. If you're already running 8 you might as well move to 8.1.

As for driver/software issues - I would advise you check before upgrading. If you find there's something you REALLY need that doesn't work under 8.1, either wait for a fix/update, or find another solution. And to be honest this was no different than any other OS release. In other words, XP-Win 7 had the same issues, and did Win 7 to 8.

Anyway if the software vendor is worth anything, they should update their software/drivers accordingly.

Peace :cool:
 

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    Custom built by me
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    Haswell i7-4770K
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    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
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    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 gig (1866MHz)
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    Samsung 512gig 850 Pro SSD (OS), Samsung 256gig 840 Pro SSD (photo editing), Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB HD
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    Logitech Wireless Wave
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    Norton Security
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    RAM Speed: 1866MHZ @ 9-10-10-27-2T, 1.5v
Why not just make a backup image first and then install 8.1 and try it out for a bit. No like? RESTORE the image.
My upgrade went on flawlessly and am glad I upgraded even though the new features are not really used by me.

Rich
I agree. Create a system image then install 8.1. If you don't like it you can always restore the image.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/8956-system-image-create-windows-8-a.html

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...overy-restore-image-computer-windows-8-a.html
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
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    HP Pavilion g7-120us Notebook
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