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Why would I want Windows 8

  1. #61


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Coke Robot, Nonsense! I'm talking on a physical standpoint of the usability of the 2.
    Win ME was just GOOFY in it's initial concept. To prove this JUST Google Win ME Easter Eggs.
    With Vista it was actually useable as a main O/S. To date Windows Vista was the fastest released
    O/S to cover MS's problems (Security) with XP. And I believe the SLOW sales of it is because of
    the WinXP camp they JUST didn't want to update to Vista. Personality I was SUPER HAPPY to be on
    the Vista beta team, and updated the second that it was on store shelves. So lets not look at
    sales records, they don't show nor prove usability as an O/S.
    Wow, really. I was in the xp camp because I didn't at the time want to upgrade my hardware just to run vista. Even so, I tried vista out on newer hardware when it was released, and after a few weeks, I ended up getting quite a few End Process notifications. I also think vista is just a watered down Longhorn and did it a disservice. It had such potential and ended up being a scar for Microsoft.

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  2. #62


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by ADRz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I like Vista too. But that is water under the bridge. But Win8 really has to shape up to cut it - on the desktop.
    It is unlikely that it will do so. Microsoft is not targeting this OS for desktop/laptop users. It is targeting the tablet crowd where I believe that it would fail miserably because, let's be honest about it, Metro-style is not nearly as attractive as ICS. If a user has a choice between a Win8 tablet and one running ICS, my guess is that ICS will win most of the comparisons. In addition, Intel-based tablets (that would access to Windows desktop applications) are going to be far more expensive than ICS (Android 4.0) tablets. So, I think that Win8 will be a failure on all fronts.

    If you want to buy a tablet, why would you want Win8 and not ICS??? I think that this is the basic question!
    I tried out an ICS tablet, bleh. It's like a polished android 3 tablet. I don't find it to be anything truly better than an ipad and just seems like it's an imitation of a future concept. If given the choice, I think users will go to Windows 8 tablets simply because it's different. And if it's running an Intel Atom processor, you'll have the option of using desktop programs and metro apps. Oh, and printer driver support as well. For ARM tablets, a user will have a new and different experience with apps and different design and function.
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  3. #63


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    I don't think it is quite as bleak The success of Win8 on the tablets will largely depend on price and application availability. This is a market that is still in the making and I am sure MS will help shape it. And with the ARM support they do not have to rely on Intel chips - Nvidea and Qualcom will be a lot cheaper/
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  4. #64


    Posts : 162
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I don't think it is quite as bleak The success of Win8 on the tablets will largely depend on price and application availability. This is a market that is still in the making and I am sure MS will help shape it. And with the ARM support they do not have to rely on Intel chips - Nvidea and Qualcom will be a lot cheaper/
    I think actually that it is bleaker than what I mentioned. In fact, it is extremely bleak for the ARM Win8 tablets. Let's say that you have $300 dollars and you wan to buy a tablet. Why would you buy a Win8 ARM tablet and not an Android 4.0 (ICS) one? Even if developers go to work full time right now, there is no way that a Win8 market can match the Android one in the number of applications available. In addition, you have the superb cloud services by Google and Amazon and a very extensive ecosystem by these companies.

    For me, the answer is clear. Unless something changes dramatically, I will continue using Windows in my desktop and laptops but I would depend on Android for smartphones and tablets. I think that the great majority of users will make the same choice.
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  5. #65


    For me, the answer is clear. Unless something changes dramatically, I will continue using Windows in my desktop and laptops but I would depend on Android for smartphones and tablets. I think that the great majority of users will make the same choice.
    You're really being merciless with the eight.

    Sorry, I'm not joking and I share partialy of your points of view, but for me just a beta will make my mind.
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  6. #66


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    If you actually think about it, it is the smart way for Microsoft to go. Today's computer users/professional are on the move, and need an operating system that can keep up with their business and lives.
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  7. #67


    Posts : 162
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    If you actually think about it, it is the smart way for Microsoft to go. Today's computer users/professional are on the move, and need an operating system that can keep up with their business and lives.
    And I think that I am just one of those. My desktops (2) and my laptops (3) all run Win 7. My cell phone runs Android 2.3.6 (it would be upgraded to 4.03 in March 2012). I have an Android tablet that is mostly used by my wife (I really do not care about tablets a lot). I plan to buy an ultrabook this year which would also be running Win7.

    Android does a perfect job in getting all my mail (Gmail, Yahoo and MS Exchange) and it runs various "office" apps that provide the same level of functionality that the MS office app (which is not available for Android). In fact, in two of these apps that I have, I have not found any compatibility problems. Thus, with my Android smartphone (a Galaxy IIS) and the Android tablet, I can take care of my email, read and edit MS Office documents, spreadsheets and presentations, watch movies, take photos and videos, and place them on the cloud (Picasa, Facebook, Twitter). There are excellent browsers available (the Android browser is excellent on its own), and, along with that, there are virtually hundreds of thousands of applications for me to use (lots of them free). Of course, as you well know, there are two apps stores for Android (the Google and the Amazon one).

    So, please let me why do I particularly need a Win8 tablet? In fact, a Win8 tablet will have fewer apps (WP7.5 apps are not compatible with Win8 Metro) and an ecosystem much poorer than the Android or iOS devices.

    If I have overlooked a functionality in these Win8 tablets that is missing in iOS and Android tablets, please let me know!!
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  8. #68


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    ADRz, come on NOW, WE both know when Windows 8 hits the retail chains, there will be plenty of applications for it. That is just naive in thinking. I will give you, there won't be right out the gate thousands, BUT 10 to 1 odds, the basic for business will be there. PLUS we ALL know WE want the newest from Redmond <g>
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  9. #69


    Posts : 162
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    ADRz, come on NOW, WE both know when Windows 8 hits the retail chains, there will be plenty of applications for it. That is just naive in thinking. I will give you, there won't be right out the gate thousands, BUT 10 to 1 odds, the basic for business will be there. PLUS we ALL know WE want the newest from Redmond <g>
    You need to define "plenty". WP7.5, after a period of over a year, has approximately 40,000 applications right now and there are various notable absences. On the other hand, both iOS and Android have over 200,000 apps each and the number is increasing geometrically.

    Now, it is just possible that the "basic" apps would be there. However, this was not my question to you. What I asked you is "what kind of a functionality would be offered by a Win8 tablet that is missing in an Android tablet?". In fact, Android tablets would be offering a better UI, many more apps and a huge ecosystem of music, movies and books. For example, both Amazon and Google allow you to sync tens of thousands of songs to their cloud servers and become available to you via mobile devices (I believe that the Google Service allows for 16,000 songs to be upload to Google servers). Now, how much of this is available from Microsoft? Yes, there is Skydrive (but Skydrive is also available through a Google app) but there is nothing like iTunes or Google or Amazon music (do I have this right?)

    Again, what is the unique solution that would be offered by Win8 tablets??? Considering that Amazon and B&N proved that they can provide very usable Android tablets for about $200, I see MS heading for a great disaster of great proportions. And I will explain:

    How much does MS charge for a Windows license? Depending on the volume discount and type of version (Home, Business, etc), MS charges something from $75 to $300. It is charging less for netbooks with a very "restricted" version: $30. Now, just explain to me how MS cannot face disaster going against an OS that costs $0.00!!! MS is also going against huge operations like Amazon and B&N that love Android because they can modify it for their own content (they cannot do so with Win8). Sorry, I just do not see much upside for Win8.

    MS should have totally deep-sixed Win8. It should have developed a top-notch OS for desktop/laptop use and it should have used WP7-7.5 for tablets. Now, it is going actually to orphan WP7/7.5 moving the code to WP8 (which is compatible with Win8). So, if you are a sucker, go buy a WP7/7.5 phone. Do you know what is funny about this? In WP8, WinMo apps would be able to run (but not WP7./7.5)!!!! (another OS orphaned by MS). Please tell me that these gyrations make any sense whatsoever!!!!

    OK, you should promise to let me know as to why I would want to buy a Win8 tablet. What would be its advantages over the iPads or the Android tablets? (Consider the fact that all Win apps - Office, Bing, Skydrive are available for the iPad). Bing and Skydrive are available in Android.
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  10. #70


    Posts : 993
    Windows 8 pro Retail


    ummmmmmm, errrrrrrrrrrrr I have to get back to you on this, after I research it further.
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