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Frustrated with search!

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    Frustrated with search!


    Why oh why have MS made search so damn difficult? I am trying to find all videos in my computer and I simply cannot. It only finds the videos in the generic my videos folder. Damn I am so frustrated I want to throw my brand new laptop out the window Will someone please help me! By the way I am using Classic shell and never use metro nor want to. If anyone can help me I will be in gratitude.

    They should shoot the guy who designed the search in win 8

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    Portsmouth Hants
    Posts : 772
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Microsoft Windows Search was best in Windows XP SP3, and has gone downhill ever since IMO.

    You are obviously OK with 3rd party apps, so why not try SEARCHMYFILES from here:

    Alternative to Windows Search For Files + Duplicates Search

    You can tailor searches with this sophisticated tool from NIRSOFT.
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    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    If you are using Classic Shell it should find all those videos "if" you have selected the proper search criteria. So, open the Classic Shell interface, check your search option settings, and try to search for videos by file extension (eg, .avi, .mov, .mp4, etc). So, if you are trying to just use "videos" as a search phrase, I doubt if that will work. Good luck.

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    Posts : 467
    Windows 8 Pro


    If search results don't contain matches from file contents, the location you're searching isn't in the search index. To include file contents for a single search, tap or click the Search Tools tab, tap or click Advanced options, then choose File contents. To add the location to the index so that file contents are always included in searches, tap or click the Search Tools tab, tap or click Advanced options, then choose Change indexed locations.
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    Good suggestion from .
    I approach the option a little differently. Control Panel - Indexing Options.

    In the first window, I have carefully selected all those parts of my hard disk that I think I would be needing to search in.

    I then go into the Advanced tab and, very important, I "rebuild"

    Right or wrong method, there is nothing that eludes me in a search of my HD.
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    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    The Classic Shell search interface does not rely on "how much" of one's hard drive is actually indexed. In fact, the search results are totally dependent upon its own settings as identified in my previous post; therefore, the search results will always be the same without regard to whether or not the hard drive is fully, partially, or not indexed at all. The inherent Winows indexing is only there to speed up those files and folders that are most commonly searched; however, I will say that I have no idea how the indexing affects any searches done with Metro because I do not use it.
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    Posts : 446
    Win 8 64-bit


    Yeah, search was better in earlier versions of windows, before they messed it up.

    As for your question, if you search from the File Explorer window, navigate to the drive you want to search, type "Kind:" into the search box and you can then select "Video" from the dropdown box. Or just type "kind:=video " in the search box.

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    More detailed info at the following link:
    Search - Find More with Filters and Operators
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    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    The Classic Shell search interface does not rely on "how much" of one's hard drive is actually indexed. In fact, the search results are totally dependent upon its own settings as identified in my previous post; therefore, the search results will always be the same without regard to whether or not the hard drive is fully, partially, or not indexed at all. The inherent Winows indexing is only there to speed up those files and folders that are most commonly searched; however, I will say that I have no idea how the indexing affects any searches done with Metro because I do not use it.
    No rudeness, but do you have any link to documentation that I could read up on that. My proposal certainly works for me. You can easily test it for yourself. It makes no difference Modern search or the power menu search.
    Make a fictitious, but ver unique, filename in a non indexed location and search. I don't think you will get a result - I wouldn't, anyway. Now include it in the index and rebuild, and search again. It will find it.
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    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Hi davehc,

    I'm not sure what you are referring to when you are asking for documentation. I have indexing completely turned off and I can find anything you can on my C drive and, because I have no need for the continual overhead caused by the continuous indexing cycle, I have completely disabled thw Windows search service and wiped the indexing content clean. To verify my findings, simply turn off the Windows Search Service and/or disable indexing and see what you can't find.

    Also, please be aware that I never intended to discredit your findings as there is always more than one way to skin a cat; however, I kept my focus on the OPs original concern which centered on the issue that he was using Classic Shell and couldn't find all his video files. Now, when I tested his search using Classic Shell, I had to search by extension but it did find all occurrences on the C drive as I reported.

    However, everyone else decided to take a different route with their suggestions and all were reasonable alternatives so I'm not sure how you are connecting your recommendation to mine because there are two different methodologies being used.

    Anyway, test it yourself (if you wish) and let me know if you think I am wrong.
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    But if you have completely disabled indexing and search, what exactly do you search with? - Just curious.

    Just tried your suggestion. I turned off search in services and in the settings in the charm options, Turned off indexing locations and, unfortunately, could not find some monor programs in my third partition.
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