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  1. #21


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Between Linux gui search and Windows Search, there is only this: The Linux will eventually have usable results.

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  2. #22


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    Windows 8.0 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    It found what I was looking for INSTANTLY, and the Windows Searches are STILL choking on it, both the Metro Search and the Bread-crummy Search.
    You think Windows Search is awful (IMO it is)?
    Try doing a GUI search in Linux.

    I also always turn Windows Search service off.
    Even though it's awkward and error prone, you can't beat the CLI tools in Linux like find for applying commands to stuff. And editors like vi. Of course I tout vi but I don't use it. It scares me!!! I'm afraid I'll walk down the street twitching my fingers going in and out of Command Mode. But you can do some stuff that most Windows users would not attempt with a free editor(unless it's a port of vi that is.)
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  3. #23


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I got vi in my phone, but I don't know how to get into it via my terminal app.
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  4. #24


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Edit- I didn't have Vi, now I do. Heh
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  5. #25


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Between Linux gui search and Windows Search, there is only this: The Linux will eventually have usable results.
    My experience is the exact opposite.

    My friend says that the KDE Search tool is good, but it totally thrashes your HDD.
    He knows how to do Terminal searches, so he disables the GUI search.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    Even though it's awkward and error prone, you can't beat the CLI tools in Linux like find for applying commands to stuff.
    I need more practice with the Terminal search commands.
    I used them once or twice during my Networking course.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    And editors like vi. Of course I tout vi but I don't use it. It scares me!!!
    We used vim in my Networking course.
    It did have some handy abilities.

    I don't like using the Terminal (or Command Prompt) because it's too easy to make a typo and (potentially) totally destroy your system.
    I also find the default setting, "Don't tell the user what I just did", very annoying.

    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Edit- I didn't have Vi, now I do. Heh
    That's a very scary combo - touchscreen keyboard and vi.
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 03 Nov 2013 at 20:40. Reason: Syntax
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  6. #26


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    It plugs in to my terminal program. Originally, I didn't have networking commands like Ping, I had to download a pack for those commands. Still, even without any addons, the terminal in iOS is pretty handy.

    If course, it is difficult to manage Vi. I think what I got is called "New Vi" made by Saurik. The guy is a genius, and he don't even consider himself part of the Jailbreaking "scene" - He made stores for both IOS and Droid. Most of the stuff he's made was done when iOS was a lot easier to jailbreak. I think it was around the time of iOS 5, Apple really started making it difficult, but unsigning their old IPSW packages. For a while you cold fake them out if you had your SHSH blobs, you could stitch the IPSW package you wanted to install, but now even that don't work.

    Can you imagine the uproar is Microsoft started doing that with Windows? We'd either be forced to install 8.1 or we'd be stuck with 7, or 8, with no way to go back to XP if we needed. App signing is one thing, but doing it to the whole OS suicks raw seawage.
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  7. #27


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Can you imagine the uproar is Microsoft started doing that with Windows? We'd either be forced to install 8.1 or we'd be stuck with 7, or 8, with no way to go back to XP if we needed. App signing is one thing, but doing it to the whole OS suicks raw seawage.
    Agreed.

    That is my main complaint about most of the rulings against MS.
    I don't necessarily disagree with the rulings, but I do object to the fact that they only apply to MS.

    Once a practice is deemed to be illegal for one company, it should be illegal for ALL companies (e.g. bundling).

    Also, subsequent offenders should receive more severe punishments (after all, they can't say that they didn't know it was illegal).
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  8. #28


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    75% of my repair work is In-Place Installs, I charge at most 75 bucks to do it (For Businesses), usually 50 (For actual people), and I can usually get MS re-activate me once I give the key from the box. Most stores and shops charge 99 minimum, plus the cost of a key. Normally the Windows 7 systems- the people bring their own recovery medium and one of the disks will be a regular Windows 7 install disk, and it is pre-activated for that system, so it's no problem, they reactivate, or, the moment I connect to the net, it activates. Dell used to be very good with giving customers Install Disks, all of my old Optiplex workstations, I still have the XP disks, it goes in like butter and activates instantly. Were these systems that self-activated Core systems, the Windows Key was in the BIOS? I could never figure that out.

    But this new deal, seems like the Key is invalidated the moment it is used in a system, you can't even use it in case of re-install. So there have been a few very unhappy customers who had to buy a key just to put the same OS they had- They had changed CPUs or something, Video Cards or some other hardware. And I have not had to deal with someone who had a Core version installed, I don't know what to do, if their key will not work - I think I read that happening in here. The OEMs want people to totally DEPEND on a "recovery partition" rather than be able to do an actual repair of the OS.

    This is why I keep a large collection of install disks, even larger than my comic book collection, and it goes all the way back to 1993. Once a year I use every single one of them at least once.

    My main concern is keeping costs down for my clients. Biggest problem is, they bring systems in that they were either given, or they bought from someone, and they got nothing. One guy brought me one of the first Lenovo Laptops, and the Hard Drive was LOCKED. Totally impossible to get into it, the only thing he could do with it was toss it in the garbage.
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