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Frustrated with search!

  1. #11


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    But if you have completely disabled indexing and search, what exactly do you search with? - Just curious.

    Just tried your suggestion. I turned off search in services and in the settings in the charm options, Turned off indexing locations and, unfortunately, could not find some monor programs in my third partition.
    First, please make note of my statement below that was included with my original second post:

    I will say that I have no idea how the indexing affects any searches done with Metro because I do not use it.
    Next, bear in mind that I was focusing on the fact that the OP was using the Classic Shell search which works similarly to the Exploere search but with its own search parameters. (See my previous screenshots for all search parameters available in Classic Shell).

    And finally, I just did an explorer search (outside of Classic Shell), with Windows Search and Indexing both turned off and here are the results. Pay special attention to the red boxes please:

    Click image for larger version

    In summary, all of my attention was focused on why the OP could not find all of his videos files using the Classic Shell search.

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  2. #12


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Does the system run any better with Indexing shut off? Honestly, I've never been able to find anything since XP. I never use Metro to search for anything either, except for the store. I just shut off Indexer, I wanna see if that makes my POS system run better.

    One thing I have noticed, is that from "My/This Computer" it never allows a search, or rather, it never STARTS a search. I would have to be in a drive. I remember XP would search my whole system including all of the drives. I don't know if this was due to a Problem with my OS installation or if Windows 7 and 8 are designed this way.
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  3. #13


    I think we are talking at cross purposes so I'll be the one to drop out. I see the red box refers to the indexing being turned off.
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  4. #14


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Well, I've never found a good solution for Searches from with Vista 7 and 8, if someone has one, I'm totally interested.


    Excellent! Shutting off Indexer seems to have sped up my system a bit.
    Last edited by XweAponX; 01 Nov 2013 at 15:39.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 2,130
    Windows 8.0 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Well, I've never found a good solution for Searches from with Vista 7 and 8, if someone has one, I'm totally interested.
    For NTFS only I use Everything Search. I see some new betas have come out. It appears now it has W8 support. The genius of Everything Search and WizTree disk space analyzer is that they both use MFT information. They only work on simple NTFS partitions. But that's all I ever use for Windows. Because they go right to the MFTs they are lightning fast. Everything Search you can configure which folder trees to search I believe. I haven't looked at the new beta yet. I've just been using it and it seems to do the job. WizTree is way cool. I keep my drives typically 70% or more free space. So WizTree fills in the disk usage data in about 2 seconds. I leave Windows Search service at Disabled.
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  6. #16


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I'll try it, I loathe and despise the Windows Search.

    EXCELLENT! "Everything" Returns results IMMEDIATELY - Just like the old Windows XP search use to do!

    I HIGHLY recommend this.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 2,130
    Windows 8.0 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    I'll try it, I loathe and despise the Windows Search.
    I think you'll be happy with it. Try the latest beta. This author leaves versions at "beta" for a long time. But they are quite stable. It makes a small db file a MB or 2. Very lightweight.
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  8. #18


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    It found what I was looking for INSTANTLY, and the Windows Searches are STILL choking on it, both the Metro Search and the Bread-crummy Search.
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  9. #19


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    It found what I was looking for INSTANTLY, and the Windows Searches are STILL choking on it, both the Metro Search and the Bread-crummy Search.
    You think Windows Search is awful (IMO it is)?
    Try doing a GUI search in Linux.

    I also always turn Windows Search service off.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 62
    Microsoft Windows


    If it helps you guys, I wrote a detailed article on how the Classic Shell Start Menu's search box works here: Classic Shell ? View topic - Search box usage for beginners as well as power users (it clarifies what all requires indexing, what doesn't) and lists the Advanced Query Syntax of Windows Search. For content like videos, you can include the folder in your Videos Library or in Indexing Options of Control Panel. Both will make it show up in the Start Menu's search box as soon as it's finished indexing.
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