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Win 8.1 (first) Boot issues after upgrade

  1. #1


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1

    Win 8.1 (first) Boot issues after upgrade


    Hi guys!

    I am a happy Lenovo U430 Touch owner (i5 Haswell + Geforce 730 + SSD 256Gb + 8Gb RAM). It came with Windows 8.0 (64-bit) and worked flawlessly. A couple of weeks after that came the Windows 8.1 update.... and then the problems started!!!


    1) After the Win 8.1 update download, I had an error and it didnīt install. SOLVED! (I downloaded the update 8.1 drivers from Lenovo, installed, then again the update and went good) --> STUPID thing, why wonīt the drivers from 8.0 work, and why a code instead of saying which drivers are the problem???

    2) After the Win 8.1 update I had the famous "Secure Boot not configured" Watermark. SOLVED! (Went to the BIOS, cleared the Secure Boot keys -the last 2 options- and then rebooted the PC. Watermark is gone)

    MY PRESENT PROBLEM:

    Everytime I completely turn off my computer, the FIRST TIME I turn it on Windows WONīT boot. It just says "LENOVO" and stays there. Then if I turn again OFF and then ON (second time) it boots well. (just before the update to 8.1, with Windows 8.0 I had zero problems.)

    Why only at the second "power on" will the Windows boot??? How can I fix it?

    Thank you all guys.

    What I notice:
    - By "standard" Windows 8.1 Shutdown I have this problem.
    - By "Start Menu 8" Shutdown... usually I do not have this issue! Arenīt both the same?

    Messures that did *not* solve the problem:
    - I already cleared (again) the SecureBoot keys on UEFI
    - I already used CCleaner to clean files, boot cache, etc
    - I deleted the hibernation file and turned it on again. (I still did not have time to test after it).

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  2. #2


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    What I notice:
    - By "standard" Windows 8.1 Shutdown I have this problem.
    - By "Start Menu 8" Shutdown... usually I do not have this issue! Arenīt both the same?
    I don't believe they are the same because when I use the standard Windows 8.1 shutdown, it acts like a full shutdown because I get approximately 50 (or so informational logs) on the next cold boot; whereas, when I use the Start8 shutdown, it acts more like a hybrid-sleep shutdown because I get only about 25 (or so) informational logs and some of them indicate a "wake from sleep" condition.

    Just for a test, download this button and place it on your desktop and see if that works like your Start8 shutdown:

    Hybrid Shut Down Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

    OR

    You could simply try to disable "fast startup" and see what happens:

    Click image for larger version

    Good luck.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks My2cents, for me it is the opposite, Start8 takes longer than from Windows, but it is difficult to know as I have an SSD and both are extremely fast (4-5 sec) and I canīt tell which is faster.

    Iīll try this weekend both again to see if it helps. Neverthless "Secureboot" off is not an option, I want to know how to fix it 100%.
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  4. #4


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Neverthless "Secureboot" off is not an option
    I don't believe I ever made reference to that option but I did make reference to "fast startup" which is not the same as secure boot. And, BTW, if you do decide to turn it off for a test, you'll probably only have to wait an extra 2-3 seconds for it to boot. Good luck and thank you for your acknowledgement as well.

    my2cents
    Last edited by my2cents; 03 Nov 2013 at 10:15.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    One more thing I forgot to mention is that Avast 2014 is causing many 8.1 boot issues, so if you are using it, try uninstalling it, and see if that fixes your issue.
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  6. #6


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1


    my2cents: youīre right, you never mentioned Secure Boot, I was reading also stuff about it and mixed "Fast Startup" that you talked about :-)

    I do not have Avast 2014, but NOD32 v6.0 (full updated). I really do not understand why the screen freezes *only* after a big period of time. For example: if I turn the computer OFF now (both standard/Start 8) it boots fine. Otherwise (like a couple of hours, with current totally off) it has this problem...and only with after the Windows 8.1 update. I never liked "big" updates (like SPx or like this one 2-3Gb) because it messes everything up.

    Pitty LENOVO does not provide a full Windows 8.1 / ISO...
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    Windows 8.1
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  8. #8


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks! I do not have the described problems, but I will search for the setting and try it :-)
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  9. #9


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Slow may eventually lead to a freeze. Give it a go...
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  10. #10


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1


    my2cents: I already found the source of the problem! IT IS in fact the "fast startup"! When "fast startup" is ON the computer freezes on the "LENOVO" screen and does not continue. I need to restart a second time... When "fast startup" is OFF the computer starts at the first time. Fortunately I have an SSD and Windows loads in 5-6 seconds but that means that the "fast startup" on Windows 8.1 (update) is damaged!

    I hope Microsoft fixes it fast... any solution meanwhile?
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