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Windows 8.1 does not go to sleep / standby automatically

  1. #11


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Both settings are already how you suggest.

    However, I've just had three successful idle-to-sleep cycles in a row. So... Fingers crossed. I will keep monitoring the issue and provide feedback again soon.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Steve, so happy to hear that you have had repetitive success!!!! Yes, this was an absolute bitch to get through. Possibly, the worst one I have encountered in a very long time. If I were to guess, I'd have say I've easily spent well over 100 hours on this one issue alone. I started working on it in early to mid-August for crying out loud!! Honestly, I think Microsoft should compensate us for finding and fixing this. It would be helpful if the Homegroup setup process would just automatically unshare all previous shares prior to establishing a new Homegroup (or at least give the user the option to do it themselves and warning them of possible trouble if not unsharing). I can't see the average user even knowing where to start with this, much less following all of our troubleshooting tips to get them there.

    Also, on one of my computers, I had random wake issues as well. I found that checking event viewer and task scheduler helped narrow down the problem. Also, one of my computers didn't like "Wake on pattern match" enabled in the network adapter advanced settings, as it would wake immediately upon sleeping. Disabling this fixed the problem.

    And yes, there numerous other issues that can prevent sleep, completely unrelated to Homegroup. Some of those issues are srvnet, Windows Search, Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service, to name a few. My advice to anyone troubleshooting sleep is to first get sleep to work without a Homegroup by troubleshooting these issues first. Once sleep works, then try setting up a Homegroup. Trust me, it will save you from being admitted to a mental institution.

    @johnpombrio - I am hoping that you can put together a tutorial on this as it will help so many others until Microsoft fixes it. If you want/need any assistance, I'd be more than willing to offer my services too.
    Last edited by Rockhound; 20 Oct 2013 at 01:04.
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  3. #13


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Rockhound, well I would put together a tutorial if I knew all the things that could be wrong with HOMEGROUP! Every time when I think we got them all, another one crops up!
    Here is a VERY interesting tidbit tho. Look at the highlighted part of this screen:

    Click image for larger version

    Take note that you must have all computers on the HOMEGROUP up and running before making changes to HOMEGROUP or possibly when you are initially typing in the password. Not having all the other machines on may prevent HOMEGROUP from initializing properly, and HOMEGROUP keeps an eternal network connection going, preventing sleep. This was definitely not the case in Win8 but may be of vital importance in Win8.1.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    I have to admit I'm not 100% convinced I'm there yet, for my particular case, because it seems like sometimes it switches to standby as it should, and sometimes nothing happens, although there's no activity going on preventing sleep. I will continue to monitor this and keep you posted.

    Also, I noticed that something else broke while trying to fix the sleep issue. Many of Windows' built-in Metro apps crash immediately at startup as I have reported here https://www.eightforums.com/general-s...ly-launch.html . Can you confirm your apps like Weather, Mail, Calendar, Stocks etc. are still working?
    Last edited by Steve06; 20 Oct 2013 at 16:43.
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  5. #15


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Yeah, I came downstairs this morning and found the computer up and running. Ai yi yi...
    As for Steve's OTHER bug, I have something similar but will post it on the new topic.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    This thing is just plain weird. I too am experiencing similar problems. I can get one computer to sleep, but then the other will not. After waking the first computer, the other one now sleeps, but now the first one won't return to sleep. Argh!!

    And yes, I too am having similar issues with the live tiles not working correctly. What in the world is wrong with this?
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  7. #17


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    BIG EDIT:
    OK, I turned on all the other machines, changed the HOMEGROUP password on all three machines, and waited 5 minutes longer than I was expecting, but my computer now sleeps. I think the trick is to:

    Make sure that all the machines on the homegroup are online before making any changes to the HOMEGROUP, joining, sharing, changing passwords (and if you change passwords go around and immediately change the passwords on the other computers- don't wait).


    Change your sleep to 1 minute and wait and wait and wait until it FINALLY falls asleep (like 4 pages of the newspaper wait). So far, this has worked on all three machines. If it is still working tomorrow is another question!
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 20 Oct 2013 at 17:14.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Mine is sleeping so far, but only the next days can tell whether this verdict prevails under various scencarios of power use. If I see that it breaks again, I will just disable Homegroup as I do not use it much anyway. Of course, it's always disappointing to be constrained in basic functionality that already used to work well since Windows 7, but that's the deal with Microsoft nowadays, 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
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  9. #19


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve06 View Post
    Mine is sleeping so far, but only the next days can tell whether this verdict prevails under various scencarios of power use. If I see that it breaks again, I will just disable Homegroup as I do not use it much anyway. Of course, it's always disappointing to be constrained in basic functionality that already used to work well since Windows 7, but that's the deal with Microsoft nowadays, 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
    I got mine to work again and Steve, read the massively edited above post as I might have it nailed down. I too could just use Workgroup sharing like in the old days but dammit, I like HOMEGROUP and I will continue working on this until either I or MS fixes it.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Yes I basically did it the way you describe in bold in post #17.

    All in all, we have made progress thanks to a great collective effort.

    As an off-topic side note, if you are in the mood for testing your 8.1 machine even further, run chkdisk /f C: from an elevated command prompt. For mine, it took 1-2 hours to finish and I just tested the 2 SSDs, getting stucked on the main drive at 11% for an interminable time. The process finished finally, but at the next boot up I got a blue screen offering me an "automatic repair". I approved it and then the machine booted up regularly. Another chkdsk again gave rise to the same long period of being stucked at 11% (worst is that you do not see anymore what exactly is happening), but the system booted up well afterwards. Yet, it did not feel right. Why did something break during chkdsk in the first place, on a brand-new configured machine? Felt like opening another can of worms.

    I do not think my machine will get any stabler in the near future before Windows start to issue so substantial patches, hence I will finally create my first backup image.
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