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Windows 8.1 will encrypt everything by default - yikes!

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    Joisey
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    Windows 8.1 consumer 64 bit

    Windows 8.1 will encrypt everything by default - yikes!


    This is the first I've seen this. Seems like it should have been publicized more. I'm not sure I want Microsoft or anyone else holding my encryption keys. Luckily, this only applies to computers with a TPM, which I don't have. Do you?

    Windows 8.1 Will Start Encrypting Hard Drives By Default: Everything You Need to Know

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  2. #2


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by mikeytg View Post
    This is the first I've seen this. Seems like it should have been publicized more. I'm not sure I want Microsoft or anyone else holding my encryption keys. Luckily, this only applies to computers with a TPM, which I don't have. Do you?

    Windows 8.1 Will Start Encrypting Hard Drives By Default: Everything You Need to Know
    Hi there

    ?????

    I'm running W8.1 RTM Enterprise - and nothing has been encrypted so far -- I've copied data to external drives and used them on other machines etc etc.

    BITLOCKER is another issue - but you have to enable that anyway if you want to use it.

    (BTW what's a TPM on a computer ??)

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Joisey
    Posts : 315
    Windows 8.1 consumer 64 bit


    According to the article people who update from 8 to 8.1 will have to enable it if they want it. TPM is the "trusted Platform Module", some kind of giz on the motherboard that provides security in some way (probably designed by the NSA). Bitlocker requires it too, but there is a way to use bitlocker without it. I found a way to see if I have a TPM (i dont) but now I can't find the article that said how to check.
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    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    It says this on Technet:
    Windows 8.1 - What's New, IT Pro Features, Devices, UI | TechNet
    Pervasive Device Encryption
    Device encryption previously found on Windows RT and Windows Phone 8 is now available in all editions of Windows. It is enabled out of the box and can be configured with additional BitLocker protection and management capability on the Pro and Enterprise SKUs. Consumer devices are automatically encrypted and protected when using a Microsoft account. Data on any Windows connected standby device is automatically protected (encrypted) with device encryption. Organizations that need to manage encryption can easily take add additional BitLocker protection options and manageability to these devices.
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    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    I'm still trying to make my mind up on whether I like this.

    From some points of view it's good for security; if someone steals your computer the data is secure (except from Microsoft and any Government Agency who asks them for your key!).

    It looks like you have to choose to enable it when upgrading from Windows 8, but presumably people who buy the full version of Windows 8.1 or a device with 8.1 pre-installed will have it on by default. This is good for the non-techie folks who wouldn't know about disk encryption but would be glad of it if they get their laptop stolen on a train or whatever.

    However it makes recovering from some scenarios much harder, and even having a backup on the Microsoft Account isn't a total protection; I've seen cases on other Forums where people delete their Microsoft Account almost on a whim, and the consequences could be much worse if that is their only backup of the computer's encryption key.

    And of course people using Linux (and Linux-based tools such as a Kaspersky Recovery Disk, and perhaps some backup software for instance) presumably won't be able to get into the PC any more? If you have a virus and want to boot from Kaspersky (or other product) recovery disk to fix it; how will you do that? (Having said that; I don't know how you'd do that now with Bitlocker; presumably there's a way...)

    So I dunno...
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by mikeytg View Post
    This is the first I've seen this. Seems like it should have been publicized more. I'm not sure I want Microsoft or anyone else holding my encryption keys. Luckily, this only applies to computers with a TPM, which I don't have. Do you?

    Windows 8.1 Will Start Encrypting Hard Drives By Default: Everything You Need to Know
    Can this "boon" be SHUT OFF?
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