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will we be able to download 8.1 iso that can clean install

  1. #21


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    The thing I don't like about USB recovery "disks" is that I murder USB flash drives, by keeping them in my pocket all the time.

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  2. #22


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    The thing I don't like about USB recovery "disks" is that I murder USB flash drives, by keeping them in my pocket all the time.
    Yes, I do understand and I am really hoping that an ISO will be made available down the road for us upgraders! Moreover, the fact that they released an ISO to Technet and MSDN is a promising sign (I think). However, if it doesn't happen, and one requires a clean install, that can be accomplished by using any legitimate Windows 8.1 RTM ISO (with the associated key) and then switching that key to your legitimate Win 8 key before activation. However, a workaround to disable your internet connection before attempting the install, is required to prevent the RTM key from attempting authentication before you can switch the installation to your legitimate Win 8 key. Also, the 8.1 RTM ISO must match your previous legitimate Windows 8 installation (core, pro, etc) or it will not work for you. Good luck.
    Last edited by my2cents; 13 Oct 2013 at 06:24.
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  3. #23


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I personally haven't used a CD/DVD to do an install in ages. I do everything from thumb drives and make a custom install drive for each PC. The only time I touch a DVD these days is for DRM protected media like games. The OEM info and logos for each PC is entered during install so I end up with this.
    Attachment 29147

    At present I have one Windows 7 desktop, one Windows 8 laptop, and a Windows 8.1 desktop and laptop. I've probably got 16 or so thumb drives, 4 USB external hard drives and a USB DVD burner. lol, I think there's even a USB floppy drive kicking around somewhere, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
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  4. #24


    Quote Originally Posted by Coram Daes View Post
    I will not be dragged in to the registration stuff if I can avoid it.

    Not for me, not for my work.
    I just avoided it. If you select that you want to register a new account in that step in the Setup, you get, on the next page, the possibility to sign in without an account. That will take you to the local user setup page.
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  5. #25


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Disclaimer to my above post. If I worked in IT or did computer repair on a regular basis I'd likely have a stack of DVD install media. For what I do hear at home I just don't need them. For me though having the TechNet ISO's on hand to burn a DVD when the need arises is a God send. When I do get a PC to resurrect it usually arrives with no media and in an unbootable state. Or so badly infected I want to just wipe it and reinstall anyway. My TechNet ISO folder is about 76 GB. That's Windows, office, MDOP, and a few other odds and ends.
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  6. #26


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    The thing I don't like about USB recovery "disks" is that I murder USB flash drives, by keeping them in my pocket all the time.
    Yes, I do understand and I am really hoping that an ISO will be made available down the road for us upgraders! Moreover, the fact that they released an ISO to Technet and MSDN is a promising sign (I think). However, if it doesn't happen, and one requires a clean install, that can be accomplished by using any legitimate Windows 8.1 RTM ISO (with the associated key) and then switching that key to your legitimate Win 8 key before activation. However, a workaround to disable your internet connection before attempting the install, is required to prevent the RTM key from attempting authentication before you can switch the installation to your legitimate Win 8 key. Also, the 8.1 RTM ISO must match your previous legitimate Windows 8 installation (core, pro, etc) or it will not work for you. Good luck.
    I did that on my desktop PC. I didn't bother disconnecting the internet though. I used the leaked RTM install key. Then I just clicked "activate windows" and "change product key". Then I entered my Windows 8 key that I use for that PC. It was something like that anyway. I don't remember having to jump though any hoops. There are likely several different ways to get it done.
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  7. #27


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    I did that on my desktop PC. I didn't bother disconnecting the internet though. I used the leaked RTM install key. Then I just clicked "activate windows" and "change product key". Then I entered my Windows 8 key that I use for that PC. It was something like that anyway. I don't remember having to jump though any hoops. There are likely several different ways to get it done.
    OK, thanks for that. Your method sounds much easier than mine; however, I just wanted to take every precaution that the RTM key would not try to authenticate on its own upon boot (with internet access enabled). For the record, my method involved the following steps to achieve the same results as alphanumeric:

    Disable internet access
    Clean install matching version of 8.1 RTM
    Use matching RTM key to allow the installation to progress and complete
    Next, I opened an elevated command prompt and inserted the following to change the key to my win 8 key:
    slmgr.vbs -ipk xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx -xxxxx
    Received sucessfully completed message that the RTM key was changed to my win 8 legitimate key
    Immediately inserted the following message to start the activation process:
    "slui 4" (without quotes)
    Re-enabled internet access and followed the prompts to complete a legitimate MS phone activation.

    Now, I wouldn't consider my method as "jumping through hoops" but I must admit there are a few mores steps involved. With that said, your method sounds much easier! Cheers!
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  8. #28


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks for all the info, guys and gals. A lot to digest, but what the hey . . .

    I'm sitting here with an HP 500-056 pre-installed with Win 8. I have downloaded and burned my Technet copy of 8.1 and like everyone else I want to install 8.1 from my ISO rather than an "upgrade" delivered via online. That just scares me half to death.

    As someone else said, I have 8 or 10 flash drives from 4 GB to 32 GB. What size flash drive do I need for the "restore disk" I will want to have? I'd like to have one "burned" right after my fresh install and then one after all my essential apps are installed.

    Finally, how would I disable Internet without unplugging my ethernet cable to the router? Since I have a wireless router to my laptop what would I do there?

    I have an external hard drive to hold all my data, which I back up to another drive and then to SkyDrive, so I don't think that will be an issue.

    Thanks for any help given.
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  9. #29


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Hi Wynona,

    I think it only requires 256MBs of space and it will auto format for you when you select the "create recovery drive" option after installation. Here's what mine looks like for 8.1 RTM post install:

    Click image for larger version

    Just to be clear that this only gives one the ability to access recovery procedures and those are also available from the "repair" function of the RTM installation disc as well. So you should be covered 2Xs in that area of concern. Good luck.
    Last edited by my2cents; 13 Oct 2013 at 08:57.
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  10. #30


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    Finally, how would I disable Internet without unplugging my ethernet cable to the router? Since I have a wireless router to my laptop what would I do there?
    OOPS, I missed that part. Go into device manager and disable your wifi network adapter. I'm not on my wireless right now but this screenshot shows the area:

    Click image for larger version

    Your wifi adapter should be right above (or below) your controller. Good luck!
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