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will we be able to download 8.1 iso that can clean install

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by nugar View Post
    I contacted Microsoft today asking about this, I was told that the preview version was an upgrade through the store, but as of today they had no info on whether there was going to be an iso available for download, she said we'd have to wait till it was released to find out. Was no great help in the long run.
    I went that route as well via online chat with the MS store early last week. The same old pat answers. They're not allowed to give out much information.

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  2. #12


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I hate this concept that this will be a major OS update offered with NO install disk, it's dangerous. I hope there will eventually BE an actual disk, having access to an install disk has been the main way to repair Windows for over 20 years. MS's "Fixits" only work 20% of the time. They want to force us to be tethered to online fixits, there is no consideration for major OS repair.
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  3. #13


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    This might also have repercussions as it will insist on a Ms account while installing -- the standard trick is to disconnect from the Internet at install time so you can get a Local account.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    The latest from MS is you can do the upgrade from the Store with a Local Account.
    We will find out next week.

    Jim
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  4. #14


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    It's that soon?

    I went through the rigamarole of installing that thingy from MS that allows the Preview to be installed through the Store, but I still don't see it in the store, what am I not doing right? I guess the Preview is gone by now- I downloaded an Iso from MS.
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  5. #15


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I've never understood the logic behind Microsoft being so stingy with the ISO files? Those that want to pirate Windows are going to find a way to get them anyway. The TechNet images are always leaked to bit torrent sites. Unfortunately some of those images are modified in a bad way. What's the harm in letting someone that already has a legal product code obtain clean unmodified install media? I had quit a hassle reinstalling Windows on my laptop after swapping in an SSD. I didn't have my TechNet account at that time so it was quit an adventure trying to find clean unmodified install media to do a clean install. I didn't need a product code, just install media. There are countless others in the same boat too. With all the negative press going around lately this would be a good way to get some positive press for Microsoft.
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  6. #16


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    It's that soon?

    I went through the rigamarole of installing that thingy from MS that allows the Preview to be installed through the Store, but I still don't see it in the store, what am I not doing right? I guess the Preview is gone by now- I downloaded an Iso from MS.
    8.1 RTM update should be available at 4AM Oct 17 in California.

    Jim
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  7. #17


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    having access to an install disk has been the main way to repair Windows for over 20 years
    I agree but things may be changing...

    FYI: Windows 8.1 RTM has removed the option to create a rescue disc and replaced it with an option to create a USB recovery drive. I found this out when I did a System Image backup and it never stopped to prompt me to create a rescue disk. It went straight thru to completion. BTW, I have created and tested my newly created USB recovery drive (up to a point) and it seems like it will work well.
    Last edited by my2cents; 12 Oct 2013 at 17:50.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by my2cents View Post
    FYI: Windows 8.1 RTM has removed the option to create a rescue disc and replaced it with an option to create a USB recovery drive.
    In Windows 8 you had both options; it's a step backwards in 8.1
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  9. #19


    Posts : 2,191
    Windows 8.1


    In Windows 8 you had both options; it's a step backwards in 8.1
    Hi David Y,

    Yes, it does seem like a step backward but I somehow feel it was necessary but can't pinpoint specifically why. However, I do know that I could not ever get my rescue disk to boot under Windows 8 because it never displayed the UEFI boot option for me (at least on my rig) when I was trying to restore a system image so I always ended up using my retail installation disc to initiate a recovery. Again, this is only my experience and it could have been due to an error on my part. Anyway, it seems like a lot of trade offs are in the works for those who decide to make the move to 8.1. With that said, here are some of my observations thus far. Now, please understand that many of my observations are questionable because they are related to my perception only; however, some are for real and will apply to all:


    Things I've Noticed With Win 8.1 RTM
    default theme too bright
    secure boot watermark warning (desktop) if not enabled
    better overall transparency
    improved text quality
    better gamma correction
    '0' errors on boot (that's a first)
    only a handful of win updates
    all drivers provided during installation or win update (and they work)
    win 7 recovery replaced by system image
    no more "create rescue disc"
    rescue disc replaced by recovery drive option
    intel driver update utility will not install (no biggie)
    wei still available via "winsat formal" command
    can't optimzize SSD recovery partition (reason unknown and don't care)
    built-in skype app now
    metro tutorial running in backgound w/occasional FYIs (don't care)
    slight performance boost (may be my imagination)

    FYI

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  10. #20


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I've never understood the logic behind Microsoft being so stingy with the ISO files? Those that want to pirate Windows are going to find a way to get them anyway. The TechNet images are always leaked to bit torrent sites. Unfortunately some of those images are modified in a bad way. What's the harm in letting someone that already has a legal product code obtain clean unmodified install media? I had quit a hassle reinstalling Windows on my laptop after swapping in an SSD. I didn't have my TechNet account at that time so it was quit an adventure trying to find clean unmodified install media to do a clean install. I didn't need a product code, just install media. There are countless others in the same boat too. With all the negative press going around lately this would be a good way to get some positive press for Microsoft.
    Actually unmodified ISO's are more highly sought after than ones that have been futzed with, but even if they are marked "Unmodified" I check them to make sure. I've never had any trouble finding them when I needed them, it was usually when I needed an install disk for Windows 7 that I didn't have a disk for, for In-Place installs.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhoneMan
    8.1 RTM update should be available at 4AM Oct 17 in California.
    Thanx.
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