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How to give permanent UACS permission to an application?

  1. #1


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    Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)

    How to give permanent UACS permission to an application?


    Hi

    Sorry to ask an obvious question but... how can I give a specific program PERMANENT permission to run?

    e.g. I still use a (very light and fast) desktop search utility called "Everything". It JUST searches filenames, and this is sometimes very useful.

    I don't want to turn off my User Account Control Setting (UACS) completely because I want it to stop anything that I haven't given permission to from running. But it's incredibly irritating that every single time I open my "Everything" application that I am have to give it permission to run.

    Many thanks

    J

    P.S. What is worse is that Everything tries to spider my disk at start up and so every time I reboot it needs permission to run. Nightmare! Fwiw, I never had that problem in Win7...

    PPS. Btw, where can I find (and stop) which application are being loaded at startup?

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  2. #2


    Posts : 22,578
    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello J,

    You could use either tutorial to have a program run elevated without getting or turning off the UAC prompt to do so.
    The tutorial below can help show you how to find your startup items to be able to disable or delete them.
    Hope this helps.
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  3. #3


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    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)


    Sounds promising thanks. Meanwhile I seem to have managed to avoid the immediate problem by installing a more recent (beta) version of Everything. If there are significant bugs I shall of course have to uninstall it.
    Cheers
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    You're welcome. Hopefully the new version will work fine for you.
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  5. #5


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    Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)


    OK I've now had a LONG HARD look at this.

    I know you are only trying to help but this is INTENSELY irritating.

    1. I can't bl**dy believe how complicated all that is. SURELY that is not Micro$oft wanted us users to do!

    2. It only works for a shortcut, and not when the application (e.g. an image or document viewer) is opened automatically.

    3. There HAS to be a better way! For one thing, many applications open quite cheerfully without the UAC moaning. I have a new Samsung laptop. If I open "Quickstarter" there is no problem. But if I open "HelpDesk or "Support Center" I have to confirm the damned thing. WTF?

    4. What is the difference between the two links you provide?

    Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create - Windows 7 Help Forums
    Elevated Program Shortcut - Create for Standard User - Windows 7 Help Forums

    5. Some of what you describe in the links has changed for Windows 8. i.e Your process doesnt work. (Something had changed its name I think...)

    6. I went right through that entire process (I cant now remember which of the two processes which I cite in "4." I used but I think the first of the two) for an image opening program. I even changed the icon on the shortcut. It all worked when I was logged in as Administrator, but when I logged in as the user in question it failed to open! Nightmare. So then I tried to re-create the shortcut when still logged in my normal user (which FWIW has Administrator rights I think) but schtask failed to find the thing ("task"?) that I had created. Nightmare again.

    What the heck are Microsoft playing at? Why is this so damned hard?
    To be honest I think the only answer is to lower the security levels because I dont want this level of pain for every single application.
    WTF?

    P.S. I am running Windows 8 Pro (x64)

    PPS. I opened up my Credential Manager, then clicked on Windows Credentials but it says there are "No Windows Credentials". So I tried logging in as Administrator and doing the same thing, but again it still says "No Windows credentials".
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  6. #6


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    64-bit Windows 10


    Nar, it's the same in Windows 8. By default, Windows will not run anything elevated at startup for security purposes since it will have full access to everything on the PC. That's why it's so hard, but the workaround below will let you.


    If you just wanted to created a shortcut that can run elevated without getting an UAC prompt, then use:
    If you wanted to be able to run an elevated program at startup, then use this below to create an elevated shortcut using Task Scheduler, then place the elevated shortcut in your Startups folder.


    Whichever one you do, be sure to read all of it and do it step by step, or it will not work. Please ask if you have any questions about it.
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  7. #7


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    Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)


    "By default, Windows will not run anything elevated at startup for security purposes since it will have full access to everything on the PC."

    a) What does elevated mean? Why cant I just give all the programs that I want to run full security rights permanently?

    b) I dont want to run them AT startup I want to run them at some point - whenever I choose - after I have started to operating system.
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  8. #8


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    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)


    OK I'm trying this one: "Elevated Program Shortcut - Create for Standard User - Windows 7 Help Forums"

    But when I try to create a shortcut (point 2. on that page) it comes back with the error of "The file runas cannot be found"

    Now what?

    EDIT:
    Clue - when escape from that error, for some reason it has put double quotes around the word "runas".

    EDIT2:
    I got through it this time. For some reason it was looking for "runas " not "runas". But I still cant get that shortcut to work. Btw, this time I have been trying to run CCleaner in the shortcut. Strangely the shortcut was failing to work even when (as logged in as Administrator) it was on the Administrator's desktop.

    I'm seriously thinking this is a waste time. Cant I just lower my UAC settings? Life is too short to do all this for every application I want to run regularly! Also why doesnt it suffice to make my user an Administrator?

    EDIT3:
    Okay that finally worked. It turned out that my Administrator account had (unaccountably) lost its password. No idea how that happened, btw. I have now done a couple of Shortcuts for different applications. BUT it is still a might pain because for example my image editing program still needs approval to open an image when I double-click on an image file. And it even does so when the program is already open. WTF?

    OK whan I am now thinking is that the easiest thing would be not to have ANY user accounts at all, and given that I am the only user of my PC which dont I just log in as Adminsitrator all the time?

    I still just can't believe how stupid all this is. (I bet they dont have this sort of stupidity on an iPad! Things just WORK [okay well initially they do!)
    Last edited by ship69; 10 Oct 2013 at 16:04.
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  9. #9


    UK
    Posts : 108
    Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)


    OK yes, so I finally got my "Elevated Program Shortcut" to work.

    But what happens if I want to open a file without using a shortcut?
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  10. #10


    Posts : 22,578
    64-bit Windows 10


    Good news.

    If you don't open the file from within the program that was opened using the elevated shortcut, then you'll get the UAC prompt.
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