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Windows 8 Hard Drive Problem

  1. #1


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8, Linux Mint 15

    Windows 8 Hard Drive Problem


    Alright, I've kind of gone around in a lot of circles trying to figure this out. I thought it had something to do with Windows 8 and its hybrid boot feature that screwed me over, but you know, I've done numerous chkdsks. I'm REALLY sure that the hard drive itself is not bad.

    On to the problem. I have a TB drive and when I was trying to delete some files, it crashed. As a consequence, the recycle bin has some invalid information in it. If I try to perma-delete files in there, the system freezes. I try to restore files, it freezes. When I tried to restore files, it also asked me if I wanted to replace the files in the respective locations that it was restoring to, which to me means that the files are still there and its in some kind of limbo.

    I'm sure this problem is at least somewhat related to the hybrid boot feature with the crashes. I dual boot with Linux Mint 15. I think that upon messing with some files on the TB drive and going back to Windows caused it to... well I'll say have a seizure. Now I've done chkdsks and it never seems to truly finish. It gets to the end, and sits there, and maybe even freeze or crash. But when I do a chkdsk I can usually access my files in Linux in read-only mode.

    While, in Windows 8, I can still access everything perfectly fine. I can read, write, and do what I want normally so long as it doesn't involve anything with the recycle bin. Also, say I try to go to the files on the HDD that I tried to delete but are still there and delete them, it freezes\crashes.

    I've also disabled that hybrid boot feature and have attempted clean shutdowns and in some cases it would even freeze on shutdown. So, I'm kind of at a loss. Any recommendations as per a tool or something I could use?

    Also I've done both chkdsk /r and chkdsk /f with the only difference that one takes hours and the other doesn't.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

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  2. #2


    Posts : 31
    Windows 8


    You say you deleted the file(s) so go ahead and try to restore them one at a time.
    right click on the file and examine the properties make sure its not a system or hidden file .
    this the hard part ...Take ownership of the file, rename it, and hold down the shift key and hit delete.
    I haven't tried this in win8 but it works in win7 when a file gets stuck in recycle bin.
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  3. #3


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Running CHKDSK only fixes part of the problem, ya gotta run a full disk scan on it from outside of windows to see if you have any read element failure. I usually use GWscan for this, but that won't work for all drives. you can download a Disk Scanning tool from the maker of the drive, make a boot disk out of it, and run it at boot. Hiren's Boot CD also has a lot of these programs on the disk, under Dos Programs/Hard Drive Tools.

    If your drive is clean, you can try running Unlocker on the files in the recycle bin, if you try that, do a custom install and de select "Delta Toolbar". You can get the installer from Major Geeks, there may be some tips on installing it there.
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  4. #4


    I've had numerous problems with Win8 and the hidden UEFI boot partition on the C: drive. It is possible the drive crash damaged that partition? In the past I've found the only solution to problems was a complete reinstall of Win8. But I found I couldn't simply insert the Windows DVD and run install as the existing UEFI partition got in the way. Formatting the drive only formats the visible C: drive.

    I found I had to plug the drive into a different SATA port to force Windows install to create a new UEFI partition. Other times, I've used a live Linux DVD to totally zap the C: drive, hidden partitions and all.

    The idea of Win8 loading part of itself into the UEFI BIOS and partition for a rapid boot sequence works well when it works but it creates a load of pitfalls too. I don't think the benefits outwiegh the disadvantages in my own experience. None of this may be relevant to your problem but maybe it helps.
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  5. #5


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    The idea of Windows 8 loading part of itself into the UEFI BIOS and partition for a rapid boot sequence works well when it works but it creates a load of pitfalls too. I don't think the benefits outwiegh the disadvantages in my own experience. None of this may be relevant to your problem but maybe it helps.
    That's why I'm glad none of my systems use that. The other issue is that if Windows 8 has an ungraceful shut-down or BSOD, sometimes the System Drive gets wrecked. That's why I suggested running the full disk scan.

    Moving to a different SATA port may help, but on a laptop that't won't work.
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