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New Windows 8 Install - Keyboard delay and freeze up

  1. #21


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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Im using a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse on win8.1 with no issues at all , maybe you have a bad connection/wifi device ,
    ps2 ports are rare on new computers ,and I almost would have thought a 20 year old mouse would have had a serial connection ,but anyway good luck with a new keyboard

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  2. #22


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Im using a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse on win8.1 with no issues at all , maybe you have a bad connection/wifi device ,
    ps2 ports are rare on new computers ,and I almost would have thought a 20 year old mouse would have had a serial connection ,but anyway good luck with a new keyboard
    All is still working well with the wired components. On closer check I see the keyboard is straight PS/2. It is possible it is a replacement of the original. It is beige, and I haven't used that color for a long time though. I see the mouse is running through a USB to PS/2 adaptor, so it obviously is newer. Also it is black and optical. I know the first one I had was not.

    On looking at the keyboards available locally I do see the odd PS/2 still around. The interesting part are the gamer keyboards which are said to be "mechanical", like there is another way? But obviously whatever is in them, price is no object, with a range of $100-200 each!

    Yes, this new Asus M5A99FX PRO 2.0 still has the PS/2 ports. Perhaps it is for the gamers. I see some controversy exists on whether PS/2 or USB is "faster" for gaming. However it has no IDE or FDD ports. I finally had to throw out my FDD, and all the floppy disks. Still had some of the 5.25" version ones kicking around.
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  3. #23


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I have an old POS Dell keyboard, it's been working for 20 years. I have a newer Dell USB keyboard that works great. I always use IR mice, I have an old Microsoft Intellimouse. It even has a service that you can install where you can use the mouse remotely from another workstation. But I use Mobile Mouse on my iPhone for that lately. I have the service installed on all of my PCs and my Macs and it works great.

    You'd be surprised how quickly USB ports can get fouled up, thats why I always use a Hub, cos it is much sturdier and can handle constant plugging in and unplugging. I only have 2 ports out of 6 working on my Box and Motherboard. The ones that are flakey, I have to jiggle around.
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  4. #24


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    If you have Bluetooth on your MB, you should try a Bluetooth KB and Mouse. I've seen some of those for less than 50 bucks for a combo, If you install a BT card, there is no other connection.
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  5. #25


    As an update, there has not been a hint of a delay or freeze of the keyboard since I went to a wired PS/2 connection. While this has all appearance of solving my problem, it still does not definitively identify the root cause of the problem. Assuming the PS/2 is the solution, then the problem could actually be the USB on my computer or the software associated with it, or it could be the wireless keyboard itself. Once I'm certain the PS/2 is bulletproof, then I will use the keyboard in wired USB mode. If that works, all that is left is the wireless keyboard.

    In any case I was convinced yesterday a wired keyboard was the quick fix, regardless of the root cause. I made the mistake of doing some research on the expensive "mechanical keyboards". The more I looked at them, the more they sounded like what I really wanted, except for the price. This old Fujitsu keyboard feels like you are typing on a plate of mush, and I knew there had to be better. In any case I found out that the secret to a good keyboard are the way the keys are made, and that Cherry MX keys are the best to be had. And further for my preferences as a touch typist not wanting loud keys, that the Brown version would suit me the best. Then just as it happened when I was looking for keyboards at an on line store that has a nearby outlet, they were advertising a one day special on a mechanical CM Storm QuickFire XT keyboard for $55 after instant discounts and a coupon. That looked a lot better than the $100-200+ prices I was seeing for other keyboards. It is a stripped down version with no cup holders, and no lighted keys, that gamers like. And it had the Cherry MX Brown keys! Couldn't resist and bought one.

    I have to say it is the best keyboard I have ever used. If you don't want to get hooked, I would suggest never typing on one of these, or not even reading about them!

    On the PS/2 interface thing, it is clear that this is what gamers prefer. Whether it makes a real world difference is debateable, but technically it is better than USB. The key difference is that PS/2 can handle multiple keystrokes at the same time, and USB can't. I guess gamers want/need? that. I suspect that is why any motherboard that may be of interest to a gamer still has PS/2. As long as there is a demand from gamers, I suspect the PS/2 is not going away any time soon.

    The relevant part with respect to my problem is that PS/2 takes a different route, both hardware and software wise through the computer. See that last link for a block diagram. This certainly leaves the possibility that I just bypassed my root cause problem, rather than solve it. Since this keyboard uses a PS/2 adaptor, I can still plug into a USB port, and I should do that to satisfy my curiosity at some point, to see where the real root cause is.

    In any case I'm back typing without delay or freezing, and have a new and great keyboard. No more wireless keyboards for me. I'm tired of having issues and constantly replacing batteries. When I went to my computer parts boneyard in the basement, I found no less than three wireless keyboards. I wish I had bought a real keyboard like this latest one a long time ago. I suspect there are many touch typists out there pounding away on mushy keyboards that don't even know this quality of a keyboard even exists. I was one for sure...

    Thanks for all the help on this.
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  6. #26


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I suppose I agree, I've always bought MBs that had a PS2 KB port. Mice, I can live with USB, it's never been a problem for me.

    Where I have the most difficulty is with systems people bring me that have some kind of USB or IR KB/Mouse combo, sometimes it is difficult to get into the BIOS when using the USB KB's and Mice I have at my house - They have to be detected by the System OS before they will even work. I don't know why that would cause problems getting into the BIOS or hitting F Keys during boot, but sometimes I have to plug in a PS2 KB before I can get the F keys to work. Newer Motherboards don't do this so much, but some of the motherboards from a few years ago have this problem, some of the DELL systems that first had USB-only KBs.

    The KB for my Pro Tools system is a USB Avid Keyboard, it's never caused me any grief, and all of my hotkeys are marked.

    But actually my favorite KB is my newer Dell KB I use on my Media System, it responds easily, feels good and never freezes up when I am using it.

    You may as well mark this as Solved, although we really don't know why the Combo you were using was causing this. I had a Logitech IR combo I used to use, it was a dog, even though it was both PS2 for KB and Mouse. It would constantly disconnect from the receiver, and I would replace the KB and Mouse batteries constantly.
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Where I have the most difficulty is with systems people bring me that have some kind of USB or IR KB/Mouse combo, sometimes it is difficult to get into the BIOS when using the USB KB's and Mice I have at my house - They have to be detected by the System OS before they will even work. I don't know why that would cause problems getting into the BIOS or hitting F Keys during boot, but sometimes I have to plug in a PS2 KB before I can get the F keys to work. Newer Motherboards don't do this so much, but some of the motherboards from a few years ago have this problem, some of the DELL systems that first had USB-only KBs.
    Yes, I have seen this issue in older motherboards/BIOS. This current motherboard works well and you can gain access with either USB or PS/2. The mouse even works to make selections in the EZ Mode of the BIOS.
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  8. #28


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Yes, newer MBs have a fully browsable BIOS, one of the newest PCs I worked on, even had a Web Browser in it. It was kind of cool actually.
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  9. #29


    So, I've been running for nearly 24 hours now with my new wired keyboard hooked up to one of the USB ports that was used for the wireless keyboard connection. Not a hint of a delay or freeze. It is looking like the root cause of the problem is the keyboard itself being defective, or much less likely interference in the wireless communication from other components in the house. I discount the latter because the same keyboard was working fine for at least a year previous and there have been no changes in wireless phones and routers in that time. Also the wireless mouse operating off the same USB transmitter worked fine. Only the keyboard was a problem.

    For now at least I will declare the problem solved and the root cause a defective wireless MK320 Logitech keyboard. Thanks again for all the help, and hopefully I will not be back to this thread again with bad news...
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  10. #30


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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    I have a new mk360 and it works great with win 8.1 ,without reading all your post ,did you make sure you have good batteries in the keyboard and mouse
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