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Will Microsoft bring back the Start Button?

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    Thanks for that. I'm trying to remain optimistic about it all. "Hopefully" all will go well.

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    Indeed. All good fun anyway :-)
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    Yes it is.
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    OK so maybe you are right about the difference between smartphone OS update (iOS, Android) and Windows.. but still the prices of it are quite high. And for example if you use upgrade cd, and you want to reinstall it, you must use the old cd first right? for example if you upgraded from 7 to 8, and you want to reinstall 8 again, you need to use the old 7 installation first? or I'm wrong? if I'm wrong then nvm
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    Quote Originally Posted by mibaup View Post
    OK so maybe you are right about the difference between smartphone OS update (iOS, Android) and Windows.. but still the prices of it are quite high. And for example if you use upgrade cd, and you want to reinstall it, you must use the old cd first right? for example if you upgraded from 7 to 8, and you want to reinstall 8 again, you need to use the old 7 installation first? or I'm wrong? if I'm wrong then nvm
    If you made a system image after you upgraded to 8 and configured it the way you like it, then the install disk will no longer be needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Not sure about this. I did clean install of 8 (and now 8.1). I've never needed the install disk as DSIM works just fine and I can't imagine a situation when the disk would be required. There might be but I can't think of a situation when it would be required assuming you have some sort of backup strategy. DSIM is one of the best things about Win 8 IMO.

    DISM - Fixing Component Store Corruption in Windows 8
    DISM is great, but an install disk can save you hours of GRIEF. It's an absolute necessity. With it, you can run an In-Place Install, which is my preferred way to repair broken Windows Installations. I keep an install disk on a flash drive as well.

    You can also use an install disk to run a command prompt and fix all kinds of errors, which can't be fixed from Windows because it is running and files are LOCKED. From the Install Disk, you can run CHKDSK, BCDedit, Bootrec. You can also use the other Automated Repair Functions.

    The Install Disk is something that, if you use a Desktop OS, or even an Apple OS, you gotta have it. I wish there were a Disk Install for iOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    If you made a system image after you upgraded to 8 and configured it the way you like it, then the install disk will no longer be needed.
    Unless of course he has any of the large number of grievous PROBLEMS we have dealt with in these forums that absolutely require you to put a disk in the drive.

    That's why I promote the use of Hiren's, it removes SOME of those requirements, you can check your drives, browse your filesystem for Virii, replace system files that have been corrupted, especially the Windows Defender program, which gets replaced by Sirefef.

    A person can be existing fine withut the need for an install disk, but just one Sirefef or Solimba infection will change that in an instant.
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    The Install Disk is something that, if you use a Desktop OS, or even an Apple OS, you gotta have it.
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    Thanks. This belief that you are a computer user and do NOT need an install disk, is a fallacy. I try to combat this everywhere I encounter it. Microsoft perpetrates it, and even Apple with their OTA updates. You MUST have an install disk, if your hard drive goes bad, if you get infected, if your system files get loused up. The user of any computer system must have a way to re-install windows in case of any problem. How are you gonna use a downloaded update file to re-install windows on a totally blank hard drive?

    In fact Microsoft sets up Refresh functions that will not work without it, then expect people to live without disks.
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    Well...

    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    if your hard drive goes bad
    You could restore from latest system image

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    if you get infected
    Likewise if you had to

    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    if your system files get loused up
    You can use DISM

    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    iIn fact Microsoft sets up Refresh functions that will not work without it
    You refresh to your CustomRefresh.wim made by recimg. I do this a lot - the added advantage is you keep all of your programs.

    If you don't want to boot into Windows or can't there is PE, Recovery Drive, Windows to go, Linux live CD.... I'm not saying it isn't convenient but not really necessary if you have some sort of backup strategy, at least I've not needed it and can't imagine a situation where I would. Having said that I do have 8.1 on the USB that I installed it with :-)
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