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Initial Loading of Destktop Invokes 8 Instances of Notepad

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    Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 dual boot

    Initial Loading of Destktop Invokes 8 Instances of Notepad


    I reformatted my Windows 8 partition this week and reinstalled Windows 8 and then Windows 8.1 beta due to a no sound and unexpected shutdown issue I had been having. All is well now with the new install, I have sound and it is no longer shutting down randomly. However, when the desktop view is first accessed after boot (whether from the desktop tile or by starting "control panel") I get 8 separate instances of Notepad that pop up, each with a dialog box containing a little yellow triangle with an exclamation mark and proclaiming "Access denied". All instances of Notepad are blank, and once I dismiss the 8 dialog boxes and close the 8 Notepad windows, I can freely go back and forth between the metro and desktop interfaces without them launching again.
    Note: Full disclosure, during the reinstall of Windows 8, the machine still experienced unexpected shutdowns (3 or 4 times) during the early stages of getting updates. Once a certain point was passed in the update process, it has been rock solid, and has run continuously for the past 48 hours. The unexpected shutdowns could have certainly introduced some problems as above, but I don't know where to look.
    This is a homebuilt AMD quadcore desktop dual booting Windows 7. No problems whatsoever on the Win 7 side.
    Thanks!

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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    You got the latest 8.1 Preview? Because the earlier ones had all kinds of bugs.

    I would say, this sounds like a virus. Fresh install right? Check your Startup items in Task Manager, see if there are any files that are set to open on boot - Also check your Task Manager and see if anything is scheduled. An "Access Denied" message would be present if the system is trying to open any files located in Program Files or Windows folders.
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    Yes, it was the latest version obtained through the App Store process. I will check Task Manager and see what gives.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Check Task Scheduler as well.

    It ALWAYS shows these notepad instances? Something has to be calling it up. Maybe even a driver trying to install but opening up the files in Notepad instead.

    You should report this at Technet too.
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    Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 dual boot


    It only does this the first time the desktop is called after boot.
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    Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 dual boot


    Hmm, started Trend Micro Housecall in Windows 8, came back and found it shutdown (i'm on another laptop now). restarted into Windows 7 and will rerun scan to see what happens. Not sure what to make of this, because this is our livingroom media PC. Report later, thanks.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    You may want to try TDSSKILLER:

    TDSSKiller Rootkit Removal Utility Free Download | Kaspersky Lab US

    And Malwarebytes Anti-Rootkit, which does a more comprehensive scan:

    Malwarebytes : Malwarebytes Anti-Rootkit

    and GMER which is a lot more advanced then either. All run Automatically.

    GMER - Rootkit Detector and Remover

    You MUST run all of those on the Primary Partition using the OS which is affected, so ya gotta scan inside of Windows 8.1

    You may wanna do it for Windows 7 as well though.
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    Ran a Housecall scan in Windows 7, had a shutdown. Ran a quickscan of GMER in Windows 7, no problems. Now running a detailed scan of the two partitions (C and G in my case) and will see what happens. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Then you should try TDSSkiller asap! Run it on both 7 and 8.1
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    Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 dual boot


    Ran TDSSKiller in Windows 7, and it found nothing. Rebooted into Windows 8 and ran TDSSKiller. It finds one suspicious object, medium risk threat each time; Hidden Service, Service: 16293819, service type: file system driver, service start: boot (0x0). File: C:\windows\system32\drivers\00857141.sys. If you delete and reboot, it generates a new suspicious object, different numbers but same location and risk level. Now scanning with malwarebytes. More to follow.
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