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Should I upgrade to Windows 8?

  1. #1


    Mauritius
    Posts : 545
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64

    Should I upgrade to Windows 8?


    I love Windows 7 and its non-touch UI but the fact that it'll gradually be left behind (as far as features are concerned) makes me wonder if I should upgrade.

    I honestly don't care about all the touchscreen garbage/Metro nonsense/Store/Touch Apps etc.. If I ever install it those will be disabled or removed if possible.

    Aero Glass is an absolute deal breaker for me, I also do not want to use that PC Settings (the touch control panel thingy) nor do I ever need to come across it. My PC isn't a tablet.

    I hate the lockscreen but I can live with it (it'd be nice to disable/remove it too). I generally use this PC for gaming and I've heard that DX11.2 won't be ported back to Windows 7 but is that a reason to upgrade?

    TL;DR: I basically need Windows 8 to be like Windows 7 but without all the touchscreen rubbish that cripples it, I want the UI to closely match the Aero Glass theme.

    Some developers are working on Aero Glass for Windows 8 thus the Aero issue could be fixed but I need to be able to disable the hot corners, the Start Screen and that multitasking app sidebar thing and charms bar, in short everything related to touch must either be buried or hidden if not removed. I'll be using Start8 if that matters.

    Is it possible to achieve such a setup? And would it make sense to upgrade?

    P.S I have installed and used Windows 8 (as well as 8.1 RTM) on another HDD but I never could appreciate it. I couldn't also see any performance improvements on my rather old rig. I hate Metro and always came back to Windows 7.

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  2. #2


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    If you are thinking of it, get it NOW, because it will be 8.1 by September and that's not as good. You can use either Classic Shell which is free, or Stardock Start8 which is 5 bucks, but it is the better one - To add a Start Menu. You can also add DesktopGagetsN to get your Gadgets back.

    Start 8 can totally bypass the lockscreen and boot the system up straight to the desktop.

    You should not lose any programs, I've got all of the programs I was running in XP and 7 running in here. With Start8 you hardly have to even look at the "Start Screen".

    You should set it up into a stand alone station just to play with it, if you like it then you can upgrade from 7 right to 8. The version of 8 I installed here did not have Media Center, but i have it in my other system, you can only install that version as an initial install, it cant be used to upgrade 7.

    Aero Glass is actually still in there, but the Transparency effects have been removed. I use a program called bLenD which gives me some transparency back.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I have installed and used Windows 8 (as well as 8.1 RTM) on another HDD but I never could appreciate it. I couldn't also see any performance improvements on my rather old rig. I hate Metro and always came back to Windows 7.
    Looks like you answered your own question.

    I don't feel disposed to use 8 as a main system.
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  4. #4


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Maybe he didn't have friends like US who could help him set it up the way he wanted?

    Windows 8 on ALL of my systems is much faster than 7 had ever been. But I did quite a bit of tweeking to get it that way, but I did the same tweeking on 7 to get THAT to run how I wanted.

    As with all OSes if you overbloat your system with Startup Items, it will slow down. If you have Office 2010 and above, ya don't need the things that it adds to your startup. That's just ONE source of B L O A T. Most programs, little POS programs you may use here and there, add a STARTUP BLOATITEM.

    Looking on my Tray, I see:

    AnyDVD
    One Note
    Air/Mobile Mouse Server
    Eset NOD32
    Aida 64
    iCloud
    nVidia Control Panel/Gefarce Xperience
    cCleaner Pro
    Greedytorrent (necessary)
    Quickslime Quickstart
    Teamviewer
    Unlocker Assistant
    Open Hardware Temp Sensor
    NO-IP DUC
    Bittorrent Sync
    Wifi Sendserver (for Windows 8 Remote Mouse)
    bLenD
    WinVNC for HippoRemote

    and

    ThePrompt - Which so far has come up as worthless.

    That's 19 POS StartBloat programs that suck my Ram bone dry.


    But I change that configuration daily. I used to have even mroe cack there hahaha.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It isn't any faster for me as far as I can tell. 8 takes longer to boot, but that doesn't matter. I don't like it is all.

    Sounds as if Yowan doesn't like it either . Fair enough.
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  6. #6


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I loathe and Despise the "StartScreen" - It's worthless. I think I have foudn a program that will excise ALL of it from my system. I'm not ready to try it here, I will do it on my Dell Precision 370 WS.

    If I do it, I'll report it here.
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  7. #7


    Mauritius
    Posts : 545
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Bloatware shouldn't be a problem for me, I have around 45-50 running processes on this 3 year old install and nothing in my tray except for uTorrent.

    It isn't any faster for me as far as I can tell. 8 takes longer to boot, but that doesn't matter. I don't like it is all.
    I also noticed that, but it could perhaps be related to my slow HDD or the fact that I use SATA2. It seems that Windows 8 is optimized for SSDs so I'm either thinking or adding one or I could build a new rig then use Windows 8.
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    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I loathe and Despise the "StartScreen" - It's worthless. I think I have foudn a program that will excise ALL of it from my system. I'm not ready to try it here, I will do it on my Dell Precision 370 WS.

    If I do it, I'll report it here.

    The good news is, Dino is interested again after a long lay off. Between him and Nik, we may have some way of neutralising the worst horrors of metro.
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  9. #9


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    it grows on ya ,go for it ,im liking it, but then aging i hardly use it for anything but what im doing right now
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  10. #10


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by yowanvista View Post
    Bloatware shouldn't be a problem for me, I have around 45-50 running processes on this 3 year old install and nothing in my tray except for uTorrent.

    ...it could perhaps be related to my slow HDD or the fact that I use SATA2. It seems that Windows 8 is optimized for SSDs so I'm either thinking or adding one or I could build a new rig then use Windows 8.
    I have all Sata 2 but my main HD on the other system is a Hybrid, 750GB - Performance Test rated it over 800, this system here rates about 350.
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