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A few days with Windows RT - comments, questions

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    A few days with Windows RT - comments, questions


    I just picked up a VivoTab RT and have many options on the thing thus far, so I wanted to make a thread for others in the market and for anyone to possibly help me around the shortcomings I see with the device.

    Firstly, why I purchased it - I saw it on clearance for $250 with keyboard dock and couldn't pass up giving it a try at that price - been looking for something with a bright screen to use outside and something that could replace both my Nexus 10 and Win7 laptop with one device, to make things simpler, especially when traveling. I found myself always bringing both devices, because even though I much preferred using the Nexus 10 for the majority of things, some tasks along the productivity side were simply much easier with a Windows based laptop.

    So Windows RT, I was expecting to hate it based upon the amount of times I have heard it trashed. Metro is not bad at all, a good interface and although the app selection is minimal all the major players are there, I haven't yet found myself needing something that isn't available. Overall, I like it, in some ways better than my loved Android, but now, the shortcomings:

    1. I am greatly missing Chrome, I now know why I left IE years ago and never looked back.
    2. Some websites display as mobile and I do not see an option within the browser to request the full site.

    Any work-arounds for my issues?

    If I were to look into getting a similar device running full win8 what would you recommend? If one of my requirements is 600nit brightness or higher is the VivoTab my only option? I couldn't find any others with brightness even close, but I am not that familiar with all the models available. Starting to think if I upgraded more memory would be nice as well, things are sluggish with multiple tabs open at 2MB as I was used to my laptop with 8MB.

    Thanks
    Last edited by mgftp; 27 Aug 2013 at 12:37.

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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    As far as a Tablet, I'm sure it's OK, there are just no good Store apps. There are a few, but most of them are wastes.

    But Chrome, Chrome is in the store, it's free. Are you saying it's locked to IE? It shouldn't be, search for Google Chrome in the Store, and download it.

    Are you sure this is an RT tablet - Because RT has NO desktop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    As far as a Tablet, I'm sure it's OK, there are just no good Store apps. There are a few, but most of them are wastes.

    But Chrome, Chrome is in the store, it's free. Are you saying it's locked to IE? It shouldn't be, search for Google Chrome in the Store, and download it.

    Are you sure this is an RT tablet - Because RT has NO desktop.
    No Chrome in the store.

    Yes, it's RT, desktop is not fully functional but it's there.
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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    ,may i ask where you bought it at that price,
    not available in north america yet is it

    edit ,see it on ebay
    Last edited by caperjack; 27 Aug 2013 at 16:58.
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    As to the mobile sites, I've run across that as well - they're seeing "ARM" in the user agent IE sends, and figuring you must be on a mobile device and sending you the mobile version of the page. As usual, web developers using the lazy way at figuring browser versus testing for functionality.

    When I run across this with my RT, I hound the webmaster and dev if I can find them until they fix it .
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    Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center, Windows RT


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    As far as a Tablet, I'm sure it's OK, there are just no good Store apps. There are a few, but most of them are wastes.

    But Chrome, Chrome is in the store, it's free. Are you saying it's locked to IE? It shouldn't be, search for Google Chrome in the Store, and download it.

    Are you sure this is an RT tablet - Because RT has NO desktop.
    There is no Chrome browser for RT. You are stuck with IE10. And, yes, RT does have a desktop. That is where all the tools like the Control Panel and programs like Word run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    As to the mobile sites, I've run across that as well - they're seeing "ARM" in the user agent IE sends, and figuring you must be on a mobile device and sending you the mobile version of the page. As usual, web developers using the lazy way at figuring browser versus testing for functionality.

    When I run across this with my RT, I hound the webmaster and dev if I can find them until they fix it .
    If I remember right my Nexus 10, also ARM, had an option in the browser (Chrome) to force sites into desktop, really wish IE had this.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I don't get it, so why do I have Chrome that I downloaded from the store? Wait, it;s part of the Desktop app.

    RT is not really a pure Tablet OS then, it's a clipped OS with limited functionality. If it has a Desktop, then download Desktop[ Chrome and install it. If you say WORD runs on the Desktop, then there must be a Desktop App installer. So Install Desktop Chrome, and use the TILE version it adds. WHich is a real browser, not a FAKE browser like the IE10 faketile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    I don't get it, so why do I have Chrome that I downloaded from the store? Wait, it;s part of the Desktop app.

    RT is not really a pure Tablet OS then, it's a clipped OS with limited functionality. If it has a Desktop, then download Desktop[ Chrome and install it. If you say WORD runs on the Desktop, then there must be a Desktop App installer. So Install Desktop Chrome, and use the TILE version it adds. WHich is a real browser, not a FAKE browser like the IE10 faketile.
    RT doesn't allow other browsers at the moment, because it doesn't allow non-MS-signed desktop binaries to be installed (at least officially - there are hacks to allow it). Chrome hasn't released an ARM-compiled Win32/WinRT browser, only x86, so no, you can't just install Chrome on RT like you do on a Windows 8 box. Anyway, on an Android tablet as the other users are saying, changing Chrome to view sites in desktop mode modifies the user-agent string that's being sent so that it's no longer viewed as an ARM browser. I'm in agreement that this should be possible in IE, but it isn't currently. I've forwarded the suggestion, however, as I think it is a good one.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I didn't understand how RT actually was, apologies. I was assuming it was like iOS or Droid where there is no desktop environment at all.

    If Word/Office can be installed, there is no way to trick the interface to allow Chrome to be installed? This makes me dislike the OS even more, no available Tile Only Chrome.

    DAMN! No Opera, no Mercury, no Photon, no Skyfire - NOTHING. I don't see who would even WANT RT if there are no other Browsers at all, a store search with the word "Browser" only renders a bunch of FAKE apps.
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