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  1. #31


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    yah I have an 001, which is old. But the driver installs with Pro Tools. I also have a driver that sends WMP to the Digi, and the CD audio into inputs 7 and 8 on the Digi.

    I have a Realtek audio card on my systems, but it shows up as "High Def Audio Device" on this system. I have the output set at 24 bit/96kHz which when connected to my surround sound system is massive. I also have Bass Management, Virtual Surround, and Loudness Equalization. It's an MS driver too. To get to the Enhancements, you have to pull up Properties in for the output that is live, in my case that is "Speakers" - I know it's Realtek, but it uses the MS HD Audio.

    On my Media system, the Audio goes through the HDMI cable, so it used the Nvidia HD Audio. It has most of the same enhancements. It's true Surround sound WHEN a surround signal is present, 3 Front, 2 rear. But it only gives me 24bit/48kHz, which is basically 96kHz anyway. Some vendors SAY 96kHz, but what they mean is L&R 48kHz. It's all the same, you wont get higher than 48k per stereo channel- UNLESS there are some new standards that have come out in the last few years, that allow 192kHz. Sound Blaster cards sometimes have 32 bit processing- I can EDIT 32bit WAV files using Sound Forge 9, which works great on Windows 8 and not even in compatibility mode. But I can't PLAY them- The system downgrades the output to 24 bit.

    I'll bet if you used the MS drivers for the Realtek, you will get the most of the same features. The Realtek driver has the added function of identifying what you have plugged in to the 1/8th inch jacks. I use SP/DIF when I can, I'm using SP/DIF to connect the TV to the Surround system.

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  2. #32


    Just a decent sound is all I need, nothing fancy, digital, Dolby or whatever and this Realtek ALC892 provides me with enough sound thru 2 triple speaker sets. With R271 drivers and it's control panel there is enough settings to satisfy. But (there always has to be one) there's a problem (pretty annoying) that I can't solve. When we are at subject of drivers and sound, I hope nobody minds if I ask here. I have an awful lag between input and output of almost 2 seconds. It is most annoying when watching TV thru a Tv card. It looks like an old Kung fu movie, see people open their mouth and sound comes couple of seconds later. It is same on all analog sound inputs even when transferring thru the PCI bus. Lowering sound resolution to the lowest point helps somewhat but than sound is terrible. When using Skype there's no perceptible lag with microphone but when I use it for recording or monitor sound there goes that lag again. When plying movies, Youtube or staff like that everything is hanky dory. The same thing was happening with Win7. I did not have the same HW when I was using XP but there were no problems like that. I don't have equipment to use digital sound so I'm stuck with analog only.
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  3. #33


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    When you are using a sound system with Digital Inputs - Mine has both SP/DIF and TOSlink (fibre optic cable) - Then once you start using that, ya don't go back to Analog Audio.

    Except for your Mackintosh or Marantz power amps to go with your Turntables, I use a Marantz for DJing. I used to have an old Radio Shack DJ Mixer which was made by NuMark- It was the best DJ mixer I had.

    I don't know why there would be a time lag on your Audio, using VLC you can correct it. All I can think of is that you need to increase your Audio Buffer size. I cna do that with my ASIO panel for Pro Tools, Actually with Pro Tools there is also a time lag between my Direct input and my Playback - And the way I deal with that is to use Low Latency Monitoring.

    When I used to use Pro Tools 8 on a laptop with an M-Box, there was no Low Latency Monitoring, it was a pain to monitor what you were adding.

    So as far as that lag, if there is any way to adjust your Buffer size and Latency... Latency is basically, the time it takes for the signal to get from one side of the component to the other. Perhaps you have something in the Audio Path interfering, maybe even Skype.

    I'd check all of your Startup programs, see if any of them use your Audio Card for any reason.

    You say it's the TV card - There should be ways to adjust the Audio Buffer and Latency in the software for that card... Is it Hauppauge? Falcon? I have a very old BT878 in this system, it's never had any lag whatsoever.
    Last edited by XweAponX; 30 Aug 2013 at 13:38.
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  4. #34


    Wish I could go all digital but financial side just said nooooo. Just too late and expensive to go changing everything. Anyway, TV card is Kworld with Philips 7131 chip, it's analog receiver with straight thru the PCI bus video and sound transfer. As my country did not go all digital yet, it was supposed to kill all analog over the air TV last year but for some reasons they let it stay 'till 2015 I did not want to invest into new TV card too soon and I was right, couple of years ago they switched from DVB-T to DVB-T2 and rendered everything obsolete. I live at outskirts of Belgrade and local cable company is simply disaster. For internet I had to settle for WiFi just because of said cable service that provides lousy internet too. ADSL is out of question because few years ago I disconnected landline phone an switched to cell phones only. Anyway, internet provider is supposed to give me IPTV access soon so the TV card will go into retirement or just as backup only.
    Sorry for ranting but just wanted you to know what kind of obstacles there are. I think I managed to get most of the lag off by adjusting program I'm using for TV (Chrys TV) to use DirectX. I kept that setting off thinking that it would provide just an obstacle but it turned out it helped and that did not help at Win7 so I guess that DirectX 11 changed some things.
    Btw, I tried few other TV cards with Bt878 chips but proved to hard to control on W7 and 8 but worked just fine with XP and W95/98 and even Millennium. Soon I will try recording from the old record player and will see if monitoring for it can be similarly adjusted. I checked all the sound drivers and settings and there was no adjustments for buffering and latency, at least I could not find them.
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  5. #35


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    The TV card you got should have advanced audio settings where you can manipulate the buffer sizes and the latency.
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  6. #36


    Wish it had, it should have but nothing like that. There are some settings that might influence those values but just make it wors. Anyway, i think it is good enough for now.
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  7. #37


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    If you were using the Audio Output of those cards to play LOCAL Audio and Video files, there wold be a Lag. You can program VLC to choose the RealTek Audio driver, that would take care of the lag for those. It's in Advanced Prefs.
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  8. #38


    That's just it, nothing LOCAL plays with any lag, not even Youtube or internet TV. Movies, video, audio from HDDs and all other media has no problems using any player, just when using analog (microphone and line in) and PCi bus. Tried few standalone audio cards and exactly the same thing, must be something the way windows handle those things. I'm not aware if VLC can display from TV card. will give it a try again.
    Edit
    Just tried newest VLC, looks like it has option to play TV from digital TV card but I have analog one, so scratch that option.
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  9. #39


    a friend in microsoft community suggested this:
    I guess I solved this problem with the definitive solution. There is a bug (almost a bad joke), but it is on the code (windows) which reads the power cfg. Somehow, the NAMES of the power profiles got deleted. If you type "powercfg -l", can you see a name, like this (Balanced)?

    Power Scheme GUID: 381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e (Balanced) *


    If, like me, you cannot, help yourself to this command:
    powercfg -changename <GUID> <any name you want>


    (yes, you have to copy that GUID).


    It solved everything here. Just thought I'd share.
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    now i have retrieved my power plans and their settings can be shown in power options! but still closing the lid, power button and screen brightness settings are gone!
    meanwhile in my list there were no "balanced" phrase, in fact there were nothing after GUID! i guess this might be a bug!
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  10. #40


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Hmn, if that was the case, you should have been able to "Create a New Power Profile"...
    Well, so you got it back? That's great! And sorry we hijacked your thread for a while hehehe,
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