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To Microsoft: 8.1 ISO wanted no account via the store

  1. #31


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    A fair number of people don't want pirated versions, they just want the install media the OEM wouldn't include with their PC. That and they don't want the recovery media loaded with bloat ware. Most OEM's aren't in a big hurry to let you skip the bloat ware so often times you won't get what you want from them. Even when you can there is often a fee attached. It's no surprise then when people start looking online for ISO's. Being able to get the real deal somewhere would be a good deal for a lot of people. The ISO's are going to get out there anyway so I don't see the logic in Microsoft being stingy with them.
    What you need to remember is that when these people, perfectly WILLING to pay for a new key AND Disk, get thwarted by stoopid policies of MS and OEM, they go out and find Pirated versions, just out of frustration.

    Some of them get lucky and find "unmodified" isos, you gotta know what to look for and avoid with the modified ones. Usually, the torrent will say UNMODIFIED and in the places I've seen, it was true. Some however, SAY Unmodified but are modified.

    Actually, Torrents was a source of OEM Install disks for me for a while. There used to be a site that was specifically OEM install and recovery disks - It's gone though. I still have those disks I found and use them for repairs for OEM machines. I was able to install XP Pro into a Toshiba Satellite that had no XP drivers- Someone had gathered up the Drivers for a Satellite A15 for XP and made a disk of it. I'll have to look for the place, maybe it moved. Most of these places are still there but they are not on WWW, they can be found in the Hidden Wiki.

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  2. #32


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post

    I didn't see the word ISO mentioned any where, but that doesn't mean it won't be available on TechNet/MSDN. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't. As far as the "as well as consumers" part goes, its anybody's guess what they get? They could offer up an executable (from windows 8) upgrade only version at first. There is so much speculation now that its hard to tell what's fact and what's fiction. Microsoft being so vague doesn't help.
    Yes, I'm assuming an ISO.. like in the past...the rest of consumers will probably have to go through the store.

    BTW checked a leaked Enterprise 9600 build... all Retail and OEM keys from windows 8 are accepted by that versions' pkeyconfig.xrm-ms - thus again I assume 'old' keys should be good on new installations of 8.1.
    It would be nice if 8.1 read and used the embedded codes on my two laptops. Well, not just my two laptops, anybody's PC.
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  3. #33



    @XweAponX..
    LMAO - that guy get kicked in the a$$ by the M$ fan-boys as well - so ya, CACK-a$$ on CRACK LOL!...


    @alpha..
    Yes, I'm sure it will.. tested the OEM : DM keys and they evaluated as valid (which is good as other keys (RC, GVLK) did not even get that far...) - so ya, hoping to get hold of a core/pro copy to test how SPP handles them...will keep you posted.
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  4. #34


    Most know that upgrades are a PITA. I gave up on them years ago. Bottom line for me is that I bought the license and disk for Windows 8 Pro 64 System Builder 64 bit. (I also obtained a copy of Office 2013 Pro recently.) I expect a disk, either ISO download or via mail, for the 8.1 upgrade. The way I understand it is that MS will stop support for 8 after 2 years?!! I didn't put out this money (and installation/maintenance time) for a two-year OS?!! That's ludicrous!

    I want a disk > period! I am also willing to put out a few bucks for it (within reason). I have an MS account. I shouldn't have to put out more money to join something else to get one. I'm not an IT Pro nor a large company that finds it economically feasible to join. I will cry bloody murder with MS DAILY if that's what it takes.
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  5. #35


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I did the update to the preview though the store and had issues. Even though it was just the preview release I am in no hurry to go that route again. It's not something I would normally do anyway, I normally avoid upgrade installs like the plague. Lets just say curiosity got the better of me this time around.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 40
    windows 8 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    The way I understand it is that MS will stop support for 8 after 2 years?!! I didn't put out this money (and installation/maintenance time) for a two-year OS?!! That's ludicrous!
    according to MS, windows 8 will be supported longer than 2 years to 2023.
    Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Microsoft Windows Help
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  7. #37


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by terrygardener View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    The way I understand it is that MS will stop support for 8 after 2 years?!! I didn't put out this money (and installation/maintenance time) for a two-year OS?!! That's ludicrous!
    according to MS, windows 8 will be supported longer than 2 years to 2023.
    Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Microsoft Windows Help
    For that purpose, they're treating 8.1 as a mandatory service pack to 8, so you will have to upgrade within 2 years of 8.1 becoming available.

    It's mentioned in this Microsoft blog post here (despite the title, it's not just applicable to the Enterprise version, I think):
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview Now Available
    Windows 8 customers will have two years to move to Windows 8.1 after the General Availability of the Windows 8.1 update to continue to remain supported under Windows 8 lifecycle. With the availability of Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview, it is time to start planning your deployment - and there are deployment tools and guidance available to help make these updates seamless for customers.
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  8. #38


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    windows 8 64 bit


    but why wouldn't you update to windows 8.1 from 8 within 2 years.
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  9. #39


    Philadelphia
    Posts : 214
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    The only thing I see worth complaining about at this point is the fact TechNet and MSDN have to wait until October 18th to get the final code. That shifts our time frame back a few months, in terms of testing. Now we won't get a head start, and will have to play catch up, while many of the people we support will be buying new systems with 8.1 already installed.

    Arguing about anything else, at this point, is a waste of time, as very little is known to be factual. If there isn't a way to download an 8.1 inclusive .iso, then you can always make system images. Granted, it won't be as ideal, but it still will be an option.
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  10. #40


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    The only thing I see worth complaining about at this point is the fact TechNet and MSDN have to wait until October 18th to get the final code. That shifts our time frame back a few months, in terms of testing. Now we won't get a head start, and will have to play catch up, while many of the people we support will be buying new systems with 8.1 already installed.
    Yes I don't envy the developers and other tech folk who are hit by this.
    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    If there isn't a way to download an 8.1 inclusive .iso, then you can always make system images. Granted, it won't be as ideal, but it still will be an option.
    I'm still going to try what I suggested here.
    Bloatware & Win 8 OEM PCs - is 8.1 preview a workaround?

    If there is indeed a way to get from 8.1 Preview to 8.1, but it won't let you keep software/apps, then my assumption is that to get from Preview to RTM will involve a fairly thorough rebuild of the OS... so on top of a clean install of 8.1 Preview ISO, my hope is that it will be a reasonably clean result.

    So I'm making sure I keep copies of the 8.1 Preview ISOs, so I can give it a go when 8.1 is released (at which point the Preview ISOs will presumably disappear, so I'm getting them now!).
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