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Anybody else tired of hearing these lame Win 8 complaints?

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    Anybody else tired of hearing these lame Win 8 complaints?


    Virtually everyday I run across a post in a forum or a news article that complains about Win 8 and how the user does not want a phone/tablet OS on their desktop/laptop. IMO, this complaint is totally without merit.

    I don't understand why those people can't accept that it is a DUAL PURPOSE OS, for those that want to use the features that are phone/tablet like they are there to be used or for those that prefer the desktop, it's available too. It's very similar to having a dual boot setup except that you don't need to reboot in order to switch between the two interfaces.

    Instead of whining about it, accept that the two interfaces are there and deal with it. I use my Win 8 laptop everyday using the desktop and have not encountered any issues with that, Win 8 is like a very capable OS. I can switch back and forth between my desktop with Win 7 and my laptop with Win 8 and run the same suite of apps on both. For those that absolutely need the Start button, there are 3rd party apps that can be applied to bring it back.

    Then there are those that whine that Win 8 is unusable on a non-touch screen. Baloney! I have been using Win 8 since the first customer preview on various machines, none of which have a touch screen and it is perfectly usable with a mouse/keyboard (yes, even the Start screen). I have never owned a computer with a touchscreen (and probably never will) but have tried them in stores and find that, instead of making things easier, the touchscreen makes using the OS laborious due to having to constantly lift my arm and make gross arm movements instead of making small hand movements to accomplish the same thing with a mouse.

    My only real complaint with Win 8 is the "Metro" or "Modern" apps. I personally haven't found one of these apps that I would want to use on a daily basis so, instead of whining about it, I simply don't use any of them.

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    I agree wholeheartedly, with one correction! I think you could say it is a tri purpose OS - with or without touchscreen. If a user only wants to be in the desktop mode, it isn't a fantastic improvement from Windows 7, but certainly not worth all the whining.
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    Yes. I tell those that ask my advice that Win 8 isn't a compelling upgrade from Win 7 but there's also no reason to avoid buying a new computer that comes with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    My only real complaint with Win 8 is the "Metro" or "Modern" apps. I personally haven't found one of these apps that I would want to use on a daily basis so, instead of whining about it, I simply don't use any of them.
    I use metro: ie, netflix, news, iheart radio, weather, daily motion, vevo, FilmOn Live TV, etc ... every day.

    ... and newegg, mahjong, minesweeper, music maker jam, pinball fx2 and toms hardware occasionally.

    At this point, with the 8.1 Preview, Netflix will not launch a video in ie 11 on the desktop, one must use the metro app. My experience anyway.
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    I prefer running YouTube and Netflix type of services in FireFox from the desktop. The web page of both those services is much more user friendly and usable than the apps are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    I prefer running YouTube and Netflix type of services in FireFox from the desktop. The web page of both those services is much more user friendly and usable than the apps are.
    Yes, just preference. I like the metro app full screen focus and auto pause when doing something else. Our experience (and preference) is different. Windowing video or game apps is annoying to me, ... when I launch a video, my preference is to do one thing at a time (watch the video). It is still possible to snap a video app (or other app) and continue to do something on the desktop.

    If I watch a video, I usually go full screen anyway. What about those lame complaints?

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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Everything just works better from the Desktop anyway, all browsers work better. For instance, if yo use the IE Tile, and you want to add a photo, it brings up the Start Screen search, instead of File Explorer, and it's LAME. I can't FIND what I'm looking for my pressing the first letter of the filename like I can do in Explorer. So to hell with it, I don't use the IE tile anymore. I don't use the Chrome tile either, same complaint. I'd rather not switch from being able to find the things I need to attach to NOT being able to find the things I want to attach. Or, download locations, I don't always use the Download folder, I like to choose the location sometimes. The Tile versions of Browsers will not let me do that as easily. If I can find a way to totally remove Metro I will.

    Not to mention there is NOT one app that can increase my productivity. Ironically, I have about ten iOS apps that can connect right to my PC and manipulate files on it, even stream video straight over. There are none of these for Windows 8. VLC? Nope, not for Windows 8 Tile. But there are plenty of fake apps that cost 10 bucks apiece and not worth the time to install them or the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Everything just works better from the Desktop anyway, all browsers work better.
    Your preference, ok. A windowed browser must be minimized or resized to run something else usually, and zoom factors can vary. On the desktop, one must always move, resize or minimize a browser to multitask.

    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    For instance, if you use the IE Tile, and you want to add a photo, it brings up the Start Screen search, instead of File Explorer, and it's LAME. I can't FIND what I'm looking for my pressing the first letter of the filename like I can do in Explorer.
    The start screen search is for apps, not files. It has been updated in 8.1

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    If I can find a way to totally remove Metro I will.
    With 8.1, you are one step closer. You can disable the top corners (edge UI and charms) with navigation options, and all corners with classic shell and others. Auto boot to desktop, the Winkey brings up whatever start menu you like.

    The start screen can also be disabled (not used) in navigation options.

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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    The amount of grievous problems I've seen with 8.1 will keep me running 8 for a while.

    I'm saying, when you are in a Webpage on Tile IE10. You want to upload an image, so you clock in "Browse for File" - THAT's the search I'm talking about. It's bad, very bad. It will bring up your 'Documents" folder in a blue area above the Web Page Frame. It is VERY difficult to find what you are looking for, because 1) The tiles are all the same size and can't be changed 2) they are not laid out like they are in Explorer, so even if you know the exact name of the file, it's VERY hard to find.
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    I'd make a screenshot, but I don't wanna go back to IE10 tile, it took 15 minutes to set it up so it worked like that. It only takes seconds to make it work as a tile in Chrome, you hit "Relaunch Chrome in Windows 8 Mode" and BOOM it opens up instantly.
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    You seem to be looking at it from a purely personal perspective.

    For some of us, it is a discussion about marketing, or if you like, the world at large. Here we can see some very major shifts in an important industry. It is fascinating to watch what the players are doing. It is also interesting to see how little most people understand, and how big corporations try and manipulate the consumers.
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