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Anybody else tired of hearing these lame Win 8 complaints?

  1. #21


    Posts : 2
    Windows 7 and Windows 8


    It really doesn't matter that you're tired of hearing about it, there are very legitimate reasons for it.

    There are many reasons why I won't/can't run Windows 8.x, but the primary reason is MS is forcing me upgrade my entire Windows based IT infrastructure to Windows Server/Hyper-V to 2012 if I want to manage it from my Win8 machine because they have made the desktop management tools incompatible with previous server versions.

    I know I could run Windows 7 in a VM on my machine to do so, but why should I have to? It is the same with why should I have to install a 3rd party Start Menu to get the convenience if the Start Menu back.

    These, and many other, compromises are not acceptable. They are simply an artificial limitation in an attempt to force a revenue generating (for MS) upgrades on us that even if we wanted the upgrade we couldn't do them overnight.

    Add the training issue for the IT user population and the costs involved and this is a disaster for MS, and a bigger blunder on their part than Vista ever was.

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  2. #22


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post


    Because that is what you are use to. It's what you have been doing for years.
    Think about it... if things went the other way, you would be saying the same thing. I can say, that is a fact.
    Try doing it with the interface for a couple of years only and then come back and say how you feel. I can say with confidence, you won't. Or, you will say it doesn't matter, cause you learned the new way of doing it and it works just fine for you.

    Because by that time, that is what you will be used to doing.

    It has a lot less to do with the interface and everything with what we are used to.
    Actually I do what's the easiest and quickest to do - If I had found an advantage to using the Fart Screen Search, I would be using it now. But since all of my work is done from the desktop it's easier to use it this way. If there were NO CHOICE, I would move to Apple, or I would have taken Windows 8 out immediately. But I like Windows 8's DESKTOP, it's better than the 7 Desktop, much faster by a factor of at least 10.
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  3. #23


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    ok. It can be quicker from the Desktop or File Explorer.

    ... also ... There is a minimize button on the bottom right corner for alphabetical listing.

    Attachment 26306
    I'll look for it next time I am in the Tile, but the vast bulk of what I store in there, would still require me to scroll left and right, it's simply easier to open File Explorer, and type the first 2 letters of the file I'm lookng for, then BOOM it;s there.

    The Tile Search, does NOT work that way, you can only find the file by visual search. Look, if I had only a few files in each of these folders, it would be moot, I could use it.

    Here is my process: I'm reading a post, find a solution, then make a screenshot of it. Open PAINT, paste it in, save it to my pics.

    Then I click on Post Pic, choose file and the Explorer Windows comes up, I type the first 2 letters of the file I just made into the selection box on the bottom. It fills in automatically with the names of all of the files that have those letters in it.

    IN the Tile Search, there is no place to enter the name of the file, yo have to select it after a visual search. I know I can pull up the charms barf and Search that way, but it is an extra step.

    Why should I use a method that puts extra steps into my process? Using Tile Search, it takes me over a minute to locate my file. Using explorer, I find it in less than a second. So it's always faster to just use the Desktop way.
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  4. #24


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Windunce View Post
    I would love to use the Modern/Metro interface exclusively.
    But it is not, nor do I believe it will EVER BE ready for prime time.

    Let me pose a question about a simple OS task using the Modern interface.

    How do I browse hidden folders?

    Answers anyone???

    Didn't think so

    So when the answers to these simple BASIC questions are....IT CAN'T BE DONE,
    complaints follow. The main 'complaint?' being....don't release ALPHA software.
    The Modern interface is ALPHA software....thus far.

    Modern/Metro should not have shipped [or should have shipped separately as a tablet OS]
    until it mirrored the feature set of the Desktop OS.

    I've no complaints about 8 Desktop OS or Blue Desktop OS, other than the
    deprecation of some of the older features that shipped with Windows 7.

    Microsoft did a great job on the DESKTOP OS.
    Very well worded, this us how I feel exactly. The Desktop is fantastic, despite removal of the much loved Transparency. But I can live without that due to the speed of it. If Windows 7 were that fast, it would be the best OS ever. But 8's desktop is many times more efficient especially after adding in a real working Start Button that pulls up a Program Menu, and adding DesktopGadgetsN so I can use the two gadgets I like that show my speeds and temps.

    I'll continue to keep looking for GOOD Tile Apps, I admit, the Mobile Scanner is pretty decent, although I can't use it, I have a real scanner. But this is just ONE decent Tile app out of hundreds if not thousands of worthless high priced cack that have Zero Productivity value.
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  5. #25


    N. Calif
    Posts : 2,586
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet), W10 (laptop)


    Quote Originally Posted by PRGeno View Post
    It really doesn't matter that you're tired of hearing about it, there are very legitimate reasons for it.

    There are many reasons why I won't/can't run Windows 8.x, but the primary reason is MS is forcing me upgrade my entire Windows based IT infrastructure to Windows Server/Hyper-V to 2012 if I want to manage it from my Win8 machine because they have made the desktop management tools incompatible with previous server versions.

    I know I could run Windows 7 in a VM on my machine to do so, but why should I have to? It is the same with why should I have to install a 3rd party Start Menu to get the convenience if the Start Menu back.

    These, and many other, compromises are not acceptable. They are simply an artificial limitation in an attempt to force a revenue generating (for MS) upgrades on us that even if we wanted the upgrade we couldn't do them overnight.

    Add the training issue for the IT user population and the costs involved and this is a disaster for MS, and a bigger blunder on their part than Vista ever was.
    Did you even read my original post before responding?
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  6. #26


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    He makes a good point though, regardless of if the OS is supposed to be "Dual Purpose" or not.
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  7. #27


    Posts : 60
    W8 Inspiron 17R W8P+MCE HTPC


    The only time I use Metro is when I'm playing solitaire.
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  8. #28


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Haha! Or Angry Birds! !
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  9. #29


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    If you just lay down ...


    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    Did you even read my original post before responding?
    If you just lay down and quietly acquiesce to whatever the Corporations (and/or Government) decide is "best for you", they'll keep doing it.


    Do not go gentle into that good night.
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    - Dylan Thomas
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  10. #30


    XweAponX — "Here is my process: I'm reading a post, find a solution, then make a screenshot of it. Open PAINT, paste it in, save it to my pics.

    Then I click on Post Pic, choose file and the Explorer Windows comes up, I type the first 2 letters of the file I just made into the selection box on the bottom. It fills in automatically with the names of all of the files that have those letters in it."


    In 8 — This should be your process: you're reading a post, find a solution, then make a screenshot of it by Winkey+Prnt Scrn.
    Your first screenshot using this method creates a new folder in Pictures named 'Screenshots'
    They are automatically named Screenshot (#)
    Every screenshot is saved here and you can rename any of them. I prefer to rename by adding a suffix. Screenshot (14) becomes Screenshot (14) intel CPUs

    Just seems faster than Open PAINT, paste it in, save it to my pics.
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