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To those who say who needs more than 1 Monitor

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I've been on 2 monitors at work for so long, it's about as normal for me as having a keyboard. I run a 24" Dell Ultrasharp (1920x1200) as well as the 14" laptop display (1600x900). I'm considering adding 1 more 24" Dell to the mix and work with both 24's and have the laptop display as my scratch space.
    Same here. been using two Dell's for many years. 30" and a 24". Not like this is anything new or revolutionary.

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  2. #12


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    This amply proves the point that for a LOT of business applications the whole idea of a full screen METRO app is totally BONKERS.

    Actually how do the Ms developers themselves work -- I'd imagine they would also need debugging and test tools as well as a decent development IDE. I can't imagine them all doing their work on a single FULL screen metro type interface.

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    jimbo
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  3. #13


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    the "....But when ..." . in your post says that even when you are normally happy with ONE monitor it's still nice to be able to use TWO when you want to.

    Case closed M'lud.

    Next case please. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
    That's why that particular system has two video cards, I have two 15" monitors I use when I take the system out in the field. Here at home, I use the 40" HDTV, it's only a slight inconvenience.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    This amply proves the point that for a LOT of business applications the whole idea of a full screen METRO app is totally BONKERS.
    How? You're example showed two full screen apps running on separate monitors. How exactly does that prove that full screen apps are bad?
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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    It's not that full screen apps themselves are per se bad --it's just that for all sorts of development work as amply shown in previous posts in this thread you simply HAVE to have various bits of the application on different monitors - plus if you are in a Work environment where say you are running the company Payroll for example and your production system crashes -- Well I'm sure most people want to get paid on time so the developer will need to run the application with his changes on a TEST system while at the same time comparing the behaviour with what's happening on the PROD system. While it possibly could be done on a single monitor - for decent debugging of code and looking at variables etc and viewing the output you'd need to have several CONCURRENT windows open -- and this is conveniently done with separate monitors.

    So @ Mystere -- imagine your company payroll had failed -- how would you go about fixing it with ONE monitor only running in full screen mode !!!. (No concurrent windows !!! so you couldn't show code / breakpoints / variables etc at the same time or compare side by side what was running on the DEV / TEST platform).

    Or an even simpler example -- you are replacing an application with something else -- You really need to show the OLD and NEW systems concurrently too --it's not that it's impossible to do but who would want to deliberately work with a handicap that's easily eliminated.

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    jimbo
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Pro Tools is the only app I use that is made for 2 screens by default, and he only one I use that way - If I had my 42" HDTV still working, I'd have that set up too and I'd have all of my systems hooked into it as Dual Monitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    So @ Mystere -- imagine your company payroll had failed -- how would you go about fixing it with ONE monitor only running in full screen mode !!!. (No concurrent windows !!! so you couldn't show code / breakpoints / variables etc at the same time or compare side by side what was running on the DEV / TEST platform).
    I wasn't responding to your comments about one monitor. It's ridiculous to claim nobody needs more than one monitor, as plenty of people do. And plenty of people who don't NEED more than one monitor certainly can use more than one monitor productively. I don't know who these mysterious "lots of people" you refer to are, but i'm guessing it's probably just one or two, as multiple monitors is something people have been using for a long time, and something that Windows 8 supports quite well.

    I was responding to your quote about full screen apps being useless and ridiculous. My response back to you was, that you're using an example of two full screen apps on separate monitors to claim that full screen apps are ridiculous? That is, in itself ridiculous.
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  8. #18


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Full screen apps ARE ridiculous though - At least implemented the way Windows 8 implements them. On my iPhone I have a modification called "background Manager" and so if I have 4 programs running, they truly remain running in the background, so when I pull them back up, they are right where I left them.

    Not So with Windows 8 tile apps. They RESET each time you switch - NO native backgrounding. iOS has NATIVE backgrounding - Meaning, even if I did not have Background Manager installed, I can run each app as long as 15 minutes before it goes to sleep. In that way, "Full Screen" iOS apps are not as hideous as full screen Windows 8 apps. Also, I have an extender that sends my iPhone output to HDMI, and it shows on my HDTV. Unfortunately there is no Dual Screen support for the device. But I really don't NEED it, as even the native backgrounding is sufficient most of the time.

    But in Windows 8, the ONLY Backgrounding you get is in Desktop Applications. All tile apps have NO native backgrounding support.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Full screen apps ARE ridiculous though - At least implemented the way Windows 8 implements them. On my iPhone I have a modification called "background Manager" and so if I have 4 programs running, they truly remain running in the background, so when I pull them back up, they are right where I left them.

    Not So with Windows 8 tile apps. They RESET each time you switch - NO native backgrounding. iOS has NATIVE backgrounding - Meaning, even if I did not have Background Manager installed, I can run each app as long as 15 minutes before it goes to sleep. In that way, "Full Screen" iOS apps are not as hideous as full screen Windows 8 apps. Also, I have an extender that sends my iPhone output to HDMI, and it shows on my HDTV. Unfortunately there is no Dual Screen support for the device. But I really don't NEED it, as even the native backgrounding is sufficient most of the time.

    But in Windows 8, the ONLY Backgrounding you get is in Desktop Applications. All tile apps have NO native backgrounding support.
    I think it might be how the "Tile" app is designed as far as background running. iHeartRadio for instance runs in the background all day at work while I use other "Tile" apps or desktop apps. It does not time out after 15 minutes and if I hear a new song that I want to know who it's by the application does not RESET when I switch back to it. If I open another "Tile" app otherwise knows as a Modern app, that needs access to the sound system iHeartRadio will suspend while the other Modern app plays, as it should. Unfortunately, that can't be said about desktop apps, and is my only complaint with Windows 8 or 8.1. The modern environment does not seem to know about the desktop. If iHeartRadio is playing and I open a desktop app that requires the sound system, both apps play forcing me to switch to the Modern app to pause it.
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  10. #20


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    It's just too much trouble, most Tile apps reset when you move to Desktop. The Start Screen has no sufficient native backgrounding - It depends on the APP, in iOS it depends on the System.
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