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Are computers outdating themselves in the long run?

  1. #31


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    simple answer is NO --it's what WE do with them that drives faster / cheaper / less energy hungry components.

    We've hardly started on intelligent robotics, true VR and holographic projection yet --these devices will require a logarithmic increase in processing power over what we have now.

    True for accessing email - web surfing etc almost any old machine can be used but that's not what is at issue here.

    Incidentally as far as robotics are concerned even now we are rapidly approaching the point where artificial limbs etc can perform BETTER than HUMAN one's -- so I can imagine a time probably not too far away in the future and certainly within this century when the Paralympics will need a TOTALLY different set of rules and some of the records broken will exceed those in the "Standard" competition.

    In order to design and test these types of things of course computers will be needed - and those will have to have incredibly improved processing speeds, and OS's capable of interacting with any sort of "Hardware" including biological.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #32


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by robinpe View Post
    I think you will find that with the potential use of 'graphene' in computers, in such things as electrical circuits & integrated circuits, with its high carrier mobility, touchscreens, etc., speeds will increase tremendously. Much development of this 'wonder' material has been done since the award to the two scientists from the University of Manchester, with the Nobel Peace prize in Physics in 2010. Now in 2013 a billion euros has been awarded by the European Union to researchers led by a Swedish professor. I believe it will have many uses in computer hardware design in the very near future.

    That's what I'm talking about - New materials for new science, is what will make puters go faster.

    A Computer can do basic math functions many times faster than we can do them in our heads, except for some Rain-Men, but a computer basically cannot THINK as fast as a human being can, and cannot think in the same way a human can. In a way, computers are not even as intelligent as Insects. It would take an unprecedented array of processors connected in parallel to get a computer to pass the Turing test.

    Voyager introduced this idea of "Bio-Neural BrainGel Packs" that allowed data to move as fast as it does in a biological entity. The Enterprise D's main computer gave birth to an Emergent Intelligence, using the whole ship to make itself.

    I believe these are things that can happen if we ever develop the technology.

    More on Graphene:

    Graphene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    simple answer is NO --it's what WE do with them that drives faster / cheaper / less energy hungry components.

    We've hardly started on intelligent robotics, true VR and holographic projection yet --these devices will require a logarithmic increase in processing power over what we have now.

    True for accessing email - web surfing etc almost any old machine can be used but that's not what is at issue here.

    Incidentally as far as robotics are concerned even now we are rapidly approaching the point where artificial limbs etc can perform BETTER than HUMAN one's -- so I can imagine a time probably not too far away in the future and certainly within this century when the Paralympics will need a TOTALLY different set of rules and some of the records broken will exceed those in the "Standard" competition.

    In order to design and test these types of things of course computers will be needed - and those will have to have incredibly improved processing speeds, and OS's capable of interacting with any sort of "Hardware" including biological.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    "The Schizoid Man" - St: TNG season 2 ep 6

    "Star Trek: The Next Generation" The Schizoid Man (1989) (btw, the Review that is shown on the page is one of mine)

    Dr Ira Graves figures out how to stick his MIND into Data's Positronic Net.

    Ok, we know Positrons exist - But can they be used to make a Computing device? The answer is probably going to be YES:

    Scientists Create First Memristor: Missing Fourth Electronic Circuit Element | Gadget Lab | Wired.com

    The Positronic Brain Is On It's Way - Sag Rising

    Ok, so Graves successfully sticks his consciousness into Data, unfortunately this was an invasion and unethical to take over a brain and a body belonging to someone else. The Process caused a Dissociative personality to develope. Graves dumped the raw data of his knowledge into the Enterprise Puter.

    They should have made a Holographic Body for him, and stuck him in the Holodeck so he could hang out with the intelligent Moriarty Hologram, that way Moriarty would not have been so pissed off enough to take over the ship again.

    Click image for larger version
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  4. #34


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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Well Lehnerus,

    Computers are like cars. I can drive with a small Toyota from Miami to Orlando and someone does this with a Porsche. Thanks to the speed limit and traffic the Porsche will not get faster in Orlando.
    good one !
    ,i use a older dell optiplex 745 core2 duo, ,about 5 years old or so, and at the end of the day i get all done what i need to have done,and more ,and the past 4 years of updates in computer hardware/software a lot of people already have, I still have it to look forward too.when the money is available
    Cars can't be split into pieces, so that they can do sections of the entire journey in parallel.
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  5. #35


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Well Lehnerus,

    Computers are like cars. I can drive with a small Toyota from Miami to Orlando and someone does this with a Porsche. Thanks to the speed limit and traffic the Porsche will not get faster in Orlando.
    good one !
    ,i use a older dell optiplex 745 core2 duo, ,about 5 years old or so, and at the end of the day i get all done what i need to have done,and more ,and the past 4 years of updates in computer hardware/software a lot of people already have, I still have it to look forward too.when the money is available
    Cars can't be split into pieces, so that they can do sections of the entire journey in parallel.
    Hmmmm. the age old question, if one ship crosses the ocean in 7 days, how long it takes 4 ships to do the same thing.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    If I'm paddling my canoe down the street and the wheel falls off, how many pancakes will a dump truck hold?

    Six - Because ICE CREAM has No BONES!

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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post

    Six - Because ICE CREAM has No BONES!

    my all time favorite is ,
    why are oranges ,because snakes have no armpits
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  8. #38


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    What's the difference between a duck?
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post

    my all time favorite is,
    why are oranges, because snakes have no armpits
    -HAHAHAHA! Good one
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  10. #40


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post

    Hmmmm. the age old question, if one ship crosses the ocean in 7 days, how long it takes 4 ships to do the same thing.
    7 Days - But they can do 4 times as much as ONE ship. Carry more people, have more swimming pools, or collect more money from people on World Cruises. Concept is the same.
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