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Windows busy circle

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    Windows busy circle


    I get the 'windows busy circle' in some cases, as of earlier today.

    I'm running Windows 8 on an HP P2-1310.

    Examples where I see the windows busy circle:
    1. I right-click on the recycle bin icon2. If I right-click on the recycle bin I get the busy icon. For a few minutes, I get the busy icon if I hover over the recycle bin. Eventually, things seem to go back to pre-busy state in that I don't get the busy icon, but the right-click menu never appears. I get a busy icon for the recycle bin even if I shut down browsers, etc.
    2. right-click on the time and date in the lower-right portion of the screen, in an attempt to launch Task Manager. If instead I do CTRL-ALT-DEL I get launch Task manager immediately.

    Maybe related: if I bring up Control Panel - System Properties - System Protection, the 'Protection Settings' table says:

    "Available Devices
    Searing"

    forever.

    The System Restore button is grayed out.

    Occasionally, I get the busy icon in other cases, but I have yet to find it repeatable.

    When I get the busy icon, it is only on the application mentioned, above. I can generally operate a (3rd party) browser with no problems.

    Task Manager reports the sort of numbers I'm used to seeing when things are running normally:
    1. ~50% CPU usage (due to browser).
    2. ~25% memory usage
    3. 25% disk usage
    4. 0% network usage

    I welcome any troubleshooting suggestions.

    Thanks.

    Additional note: I now have gotten things into a mode where the desktop is semi grayed out and shows the busy icon if I hover the mouse over the desktop. Also, I get the busy icon if I hover over the 3rd party Start button or any of the app buttons on the task bar (this is the bar just to the right of the Start button; I hope I'm using the right term).

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  2. #2


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Download Hiren's, do a GWscan on your hard drive... Mechanical hard drive or SSD? Run the first 2 tests in GWscan, see if there is any Read Element Failure, that will cause the aperture circle hang, even a system freeze. Does it ever lock up solid? Download link for Hiren's is below, HD testing Progs are all in Dos Programs when you boot to Hiren's
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    Thanks for the reply.

    I'll give Hiren's a try.

    I have a mechanical HD.

    When you ask if it 'locks up solid', I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean:
    1. No Windows activities works, including browsing; or
    2. The specific icon that has the busy icon stays busy forever; or
    3. other
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    I downloaded Hiren's, but I don't seeany instructions.

    I assume that I execute BurnCDCC.exe, right?
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    You can use Imgburn to burn it or just burn it to Windows 8.

    After you burn it, stick it in your system and boot to it. There will be a Menu, look for "Dos Programs", get into that and look for "Hard Drive Tools"

    GWscan will be on the 3rd page. If GWscan will not detect your drive, you can use the tool from the manufacturer, it will be in the same area. GWscan can check a large number of manufacturers, except for Toshiba and possibly, Hitachi. There are Tools for those in there as well.

    What I mean by "Lock up solid", is, does the system freeze so no mouse moves, or maybe the mouse moves, but nothing can be clicked? Anyway, there is a good chance your drive has developed a few read errors, and GWscan can fix a limited number of these - If the program tells you there are too many errors to fix, then you can use Vivard to do a smart remap of the whole drive. I was able to repair a Drive that came up "FAIL" in the Toshiba program, after I ran smart remap, if came up "Good".
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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    You can use Imgburn to burn it or just burn it to Windows 8.

    After you burn it, stick it in your system and boot to it. There will be a Menu, look for "Dos Programs", get into that and look for "Hard Drive Tools"

    GWscan will be on the 3rd page. If GWscan will not detect your drive, you can use the tool from the manufacturer, it will be in the same area. GWscan can check a large number of manufacturers, except for Toshiba and possibly, Hitachi. There are Tools for those in there as well.

    What I mean by "Lock up solid", is, does the system freeze so no mouse moves, or maybe the mouse moves, but nothing can be clicked? Anyway, there is a good chance your drive has developed a few read errors, and GWscan can fix a limited number of these - If the program tells you there are too many errors to fix, then you can use Vivard to do a smart remap of the whole drive. I was able to repair a Drive that came up "FAIL" in the Toshiba program, after I ran smart remap, if came up "Good".
    Sorry for the dumb question, but what does 'burn it to Windows 8' mean?

    No, it has never locked up solid. The problem seems specific to an app.

    Actually, I got an interesting clue a few minutes ago. I ran TreeSize scan and got the error:

    "An "access denied" error occurred when accessing "C:\$RECYCLE.BIN\S-1-5-21-4196889071-104744417..\". Would you like to restart all scans as administrator?"

    I answered Yes and it's scanning, although it hasn't finished yet.

    Thanks for your ongoing help and answers!
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Just right click on the ISO image and Windows 8 will offer to either mount it for you or burn it to a CD for you, - As a matter of fact I don't use IMGburn anymore to burn and I don't use UltraISO or Magicdisc to mount. It's all built in. But I'm using Pro, I don't know if that feature is missing in lesser versions. I don't see why it would not be in regular "Home" versions.

    That's your recycle bin, maybe your recycle bin has gotten corrupted, but it could be part of a larger problem with read errors on the Drive, which is why I suggested running GWscan.
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    Posts : 1,093
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    Quote Originally Posted by SimSportPlyr View Post
    I get the 'windows busy circle' in some cases, as of earlier today.

    I'm running Windows 8 on an HP P2-1310.

    Examples where I see the windows busy circle:
    1. I right-click on the recycle bin icon2. If I right-click on the recycle bin I get the busy icon. For a few minutes, I get the busy icon if I hover over the recycle bin. Eventually, things seem to go back to pre-busy state in that I don't get the busy icon, but the right-click menu never appears. I get a busy icon for the recycle bin even if I shut down browsers, etc.
    2. right-click on the time and date in the lower-right portion of the screen, in an attempt to launch Task Manager. If instead I do CTRL-ALT-DEL I get launch Task manager immediately.

    Maybe related: if I bring up Control Panel - System Properties - System Protection, the 'Protection Settings' table says:

    "Available Devices
    Searing"

    forever.

    The System Restore button is grayed out.

    Occasionally, I get the busy icon in other cases, but I have yet to find it repeatable.

    When I get the busy icon, it is only on the application mentioned, above. I can generally operate a (3rd party) browser with no problems.

    Task Manager reports the sort of numbers I'm used to seeing when things are running normally:
    1. ~50% CPU usage (due to browser).
    2. ~25% memory usage
    3. 25% disk usage
    4. 0% network usage

    I welcome any troubleshooting suggestions.

    Thanks.

    Additional note: I now have gotten things into a mode where the desktop is semi grayed out and shows the busy icon if I hover the mouse over the desktop. Also, I get the busy icon if I hover over the 3rd party Start button or any of the app buttons on the task bar (this is the bar just to the right of the Start button; I hope I'm using the right term).
    Disable all startup programs and retest. I don't consider 50% CPU usage as normal when just the background processes are running. If this fixes your issue, start re-enabling your startup programs one at a time until your issue returns.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    But run GWscan first before you get into doing all that. If GWscan reports no errors, then maybe you do have a startup item that is sucking up your resources. But I don't like those "Greyed Out Areas" - Could be a virus. Start from the disk scan and move up from there.
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    Thanks again for the help, guys. I'll be away from my PC (tower) for a few days, but I'll report back once I've been able to do some troubleshooting. P.S. Regarding the 'normal' 50% cpu usage, it is usually due to a particular web site driving up cup usage for the browser. Sometimes, it's finance.yahoo.com . Usually, when I close the tab the cpu usage drops to a low value. [the forum isn't allowing me to put the 'ps' on a new paragraph....]
    Last edited by SimSportPlyr; 02 Aug 2013 at 10:32.
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