Messed up unnamed partitions on new Dell computer

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Messed up hidden partitions on new Dell computer

I recently purchased a Dell Inspiron 17R SE.

The first thing I wanted to do to it was transfer the OS to an SSD, and use the 1TB drive that came with the computer as a data drive.

I wanted to shrink the C: OS partition so it would fit on my SSD but the Windows Shrink Partition tool wouldn't let me due to unmovable files.

I tried using the Windows 7 File Recovery backup tool to do a backup. With over 500 GB space on my backup drive and only 65 GB used on the 1Tb drive I was backing up, it kept telling me not enough disk space. Eventually I gave up.

I opted to install EaseUS TODO Backup and tried to backup the the whole 1TB drive. It raised an error indicating too many unnamed partitions. I opted to backup only the C: OS and the EFI System partition - leaving 3 oem hidden partitions not backed up as I wasn't going to do anything to them anyway. It worked.

I used EaseUS Partition Master to shrink the C: OS partition to 120 GB. Worked again.

I thought now would be the time to generate the Windows backup - created an image OK. Afterward however, it failed to generate the system recovery disk indicating some invalid parameter error. This was concerning. I went to the Dell Backup and Recovery tool and it told me it couldn't find the recovery partition. Not good again.

In disk management, all partitions are still there. I'm pretty sure the 3 OEM hidden partitions (40Mb, 500Mb, and 14.73Gb) had names in brackets like 'Healthy (Recovery Partition)', ... They all just say 'Healthy (OEM Partition)'. I'm guessing EaseUS Partition Master messed up their names and/or messed with their content.

At this point, the computer still works fine, and on the second pass I was able to backup the entire drive using EaseUS TODO Backup. I can't use the Dell or Windows backup utilities. I'm not sure what mess I created by messing up the 3 oem partitions, or if I can recover somehow.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R SE
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Memory
    8 GB
In almost every case I've seen, once something is done to the OEM drive, the Dell restore partition (PC Restore) is no longer valid and cannot be user generated - its a factory only. You can only restore with discs. There is also a Dell Diagnostic partition and it sounds like that may be gone too. Dell's also have a "recovery" partition that is used for backup user data but that is a fluke, if the hard drive fails the "recovery" partition and saved data is gone too.


I use Macrium Reflect to do full hard drive (all partitions) backups.

I used to do a lot of support on the Dell users forums (community) and many users that wanted to use some other drive, or OS, would just remove the Dell OEM drive and set it aside, install whatever drive they wanted and use that. Then, if the original configuration was needed all they had to do was reconnect the OEM drive.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    i7 6700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero
    Memory
    16 Gb G Skill TridentZ DDR4 3400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel (i7 CPU)
    Sound Card
    RealTek Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" Dell SE2717HR
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    500GB Samsung 850 SSD, 3TB for backups
    PSU
    EVGA Supernova 750 G2
    Case
    BeQuiet Silent Base 600
    Cooling
    Deepcool Captain 120EX
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Cable - 100MB Downlink
    Browser
    Edge/Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft
    Other Info
    Sonar Platinum 64 bit recording studio software with MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid recording interface unit.
In almost every case I've seen, once something is done to the OEM drive, the Dell restore partition (PC Restore) is no longer valid and cannot be user generated - its a factory only. You can only restore with discs. There is also a Dell Diagnostic partition and it sounds like that may be gone too. Dell's also have a "recovery" partition that is used for backup user data but that is a fluke, if the hard drive fails the "recovery" partition and saved data is gone too.

I've noticed this as well, it all started when I was upgrading a Windows Vista laptop to 7. It went in, but then it would not boot to 7 but only to the Recovery partition. This was before I ever considered deleting the recovery partition. It's because some OEMs put the recovery partition on the system drive BEFORE the System partition, and the recovery partition always snakes the Drive C assignment. But I think if they want to keep the recovery partition, they can use BCDedit to tell the system to use the second partition on the drive as System and Boot. But lately I have just been deleting the recovery partitions when they start interfering with the boot sequence on the main drive.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
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