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A rather upsetting Win 8 problem

  1. #1


    Posts : 17
    Windows 7/Windows 8 Dual Boot

    A rather upsetting Win 8 problem


    Alright, I'll do my best to explain my problem. I hope it doesn't require a nuke.

    Recently I decided i was going to dual boot my computer. I had Windows 8 on there from before on a 750gb HDD and I installed Windows 7 on a separate 160 HDD. I must have done something wrong then because after the install completed, successfully, the problems began. Windows 8 began the upsetting "automatic repair was unable to fix the problem" bootloop. So i looked up a pretty good deal of tutorials, guides, and razed YouTube in an attempt to find a solution.

    It's also worth noting that the Windows 7 install works without a hitch and i can access every file on my Windows 8 HDD.

    These are the lists of commands/methods I tried while in the command prompt in the Win8 recovery environment, their responses as to the point as possible, and their references (not including duplicates):

    How To Fix The Windows Bootloader » TweakHound
    bootrec /fixmbr : "The operation completed successfully"
    bootrec /fixboot : "The operation completed successfully"
    bootrec /scanos : "The operation completed successfully"
    bootrec /rebuildbcd : "The operation completed successfully"

    bootsect /nt60 all c: /force /mbr : "The operation completed successfully"
    * "all" was a variation in the command shown on the site that i found on a technet post that i cannot relocate


    bcdboot c:\windows /s c: :Successful

    ----------------------------------------------
    How to disable Windows 8 Automatic Repair - YouTube (probably a mistake)

    bcdedit /set {XXXXX-XXX-XXX-XXX-XX-XXXXXXXXXX} recoveryenabled No : "The operation completed successfully"

    (Note: Automatic Repair STILL booted)

    -----------------------------------------------
    That's when i decided to hit "Windows StartUp Settings" in an attempt to boot into Safe Mode. That was the last time I saw the Win8 recovery environment without the disc itself.

    This is the error I saw for every option on the startup screen:

    "The operating system couldn't be loaded because the system registry file is missing or contains errors.
    File: \Windows\System32\config\system
    Error code: 0xc0000225"

    Clearly a system problem. So after i located the Win8 disc and went into the recovery environment, I attempted to execute a standard sfc /scannow in the command prompt. It returned:

    "Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation"

    So i did this:
    sfc /SCANNOW /OFFBOOTDIR=c:\ /OFFWINDIR=c:\windows

    At first it appears to run, but then:

    "Windows Resource Protection could not start the repair service"

    That's as much as I can recall. I have many projects and setups on that installation that I can't afford to lose. I am hoping that my Win7 installation can aid in the repair process but atm im clueless.

    Edit: Oh yes, Reset/Refresh failed before they could have even started.

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  2. #2


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    SFC has to be running from within a regular windows session, I tried running it once from a disk and it failed with the exact same words.

    When it gives you this error, it cannot find the system hard drive:

    Code:
    "The operating system couldn't be loaded because the system registry file is missing or contains errors.
    File: \Windows\System32\config\system
    Error code: 0xc0000225"
    You installed Windows 7 after windows 8 was installed right? Try booting from the Windows 7 drive, see if it gives you a Boot Choice menu, and choose Windows 8 from THAT. Because your Windows 7 disk will now be the default system disk, and all of those BCDedit commands would have affected Windows 7, not 8.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 17
    Windows 7/Windows 8 Dual Boot


    Ahh. I see. And yes, 7 was installed after 8.

    The Windows 7 bootloader does pop up actually. From there I can select either Win7 or Win8 and the respective options for each. Upon selecting Win8 from the Win7 bootloader the error you quoted occurs.

    If all those commands affected the Win7 drive instead of the Win8 I hope that doesn't complicate things. I don't think it will too too much though.

    Is it possible then to change the default drive? And if so how?
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  4. #4


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    For now, just use whatever key combo brings up your Boot Order, usually it's escape or F12. Usually the System Screen tells you what keys to push on boot, it'll say "Press F1 for BIOS" or "Press F12" for Boot Selection. Sometimes it is even F8. But you need to boot from the 160 GB drive, make that FIRST in the boot order. Then, choose Windows 8 in THAT boot menu.

    Ya see, when you install Windows 8 on top of a windows 7 that's already there, it will write the Windows 8 Boot GUI onto the 7 disk as well. Well, what you have done is wrote the windows 7 Bootloader OVER the 8 Bootloader, thus causing all of your problems. So I'm thinking the only way to get to 8 would be through the Windows 7 partition.

    Once you are IN to Windows 8, you can install Windows 8 Manager from Yamicsoft (free 15 day trial) and you can reset your boot options to the other drive using the Boot Tool:

    Click image for larger version

    Oh yes, the next time you want to install Windows 7 when there is a Windows 8 installed, take out the Windows 8 HD and install Windows 7 into the drive as a stand alone. THEN, you can attach trhe 8 HD and add the boot entry using that same tool.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 17
    Windows 7/Windows 8 Dual Boot


    Alright. Thanks for the insight. I'm definitely going to keep that in mind the next time that comes up. I'll try it now.

    EDIT: The gods must be angry at something i did because the boot loader inexplicably shows up no longer (BIOS boot order switching and everything). Now it just goes straight to the Win8 error screen and F9 brings me here (Win7). I might be able to bring it back up using previous commands, but I'm kinda paranoid right now. I have both discs at my disposal. Any command from both recovery environments you think i should run i will be able too.

    And in any case thank you for your time.
    Last edited by Shifted; 23 Jul 2013 at 08:22.
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  6. #6


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Search the web for Hiren's Boot CD version 13" - download it and burn it. If you can't find it, maybe there is something I can do to get it yo you, we'll worry about that later. Once you get it burnt, boot to it, and you will see a section that has two entries, "Windows XP" and "Windows Vista/7" Boot Loaders. Use the Windows Vista/7 Bootloader, and it should bring you to your Boot Choice menu. Look I JUST had what you describe happen to me last night after I moved my Windows 8 partition from one drive to another. You will have to try a few things.

    Did you say you ran a Bootrec command? I had to run Bootrec, 'scanos" and then add my Windows 8 back in. The Fix was a combination of things. Sometimes running BCDedit can cause problems, so I always use the graphical tool from within Windows 8 Manager. You can use Hiren's Boot 13's Windows 7 loader to boot 8, and from within 8 install Windows 8 Manager. Then you can use the Boot Manager to fix your main boot drive.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 17
    Windows 7/Windows 8 Dual Boot


    Oh man. Yeah. I ran both commands. Bootrec i ran to repair the boot record and bcdedit in an attempt to stop automatic repair from running since it was just a waste to time when booting up.

    Okay. I went I found that there is a later version of it, 15.2. Download that instead or 13 specifically?
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  8. #8


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    15 does not have the Bootloader for Windows Vista/7
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  9. #9


    Posts : 17
    Windows 7/Windows 8 Dual Boot


    Oh okay. Got it.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 17
    Windows 7/Windows 8 Dual Boot


    Alright. I fired up the disc and I brought up the win7 boot loader. I hit win8 and it took me to the recovery environment which is good. I hit continue to windows*8 and my computer just rebooted. Ill do some more tinkering.

    Edit: Startup settings gives me a d000034 error. "something did not load correctly"
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