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Buggy install of Windows 8 even after reformat

  1. #1


    Posts : 45
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 ; Ubuntu 13.10 x64

    Buggy install of Windows 8 even after reformat


    Hey all,

    First off, I apologize for the long post. Writing isn't really my thing lol, but I will try to explain the problem the best I can. Please let me know if you need clarification on anything.

    I decided that I didn't want the Windows 8.1 Preview anymore on my system (going to wait for final release). So I decided to do a re-install of Windows 8.

    First, I tried to do a reset. But I got an error message saying that the files on the DVD were not valid (it's an official MS DVD). So instead I booted into the DVD and did a format and clean install, all went OK.

    When I started to setup my install, that's when problems started. Windows Update failed to install 55 updates (immediately after downloading them) first time around, but a re-try was successful.

    After I ran a disk cleanup, and this is where things started acting weird. When the disk cleanup got to "Windows Update", it hanged there and never finished. I had to manually cancel disk cleanup to get it to close.

    I then proceeded to install my programs through Ninite. The majority of my programs installed fine, except for iTunes, a few others and my antivirus installed with errors. Again, same problem, the install never finished. It just stayed in the same spot and never completed the install, I had to cancel the program. Then I tried downloading the iTunes installer and trying that, but same thing, the install never finished and I had to cancel the program.

    My first solution was to try to repair the system files, using sfc /scannow command. That completed for the most part, but hanged at 100% and didn't display the results. Eventually after this I gave up and did another format and reinstall from the DVD.

    So far everything has been acting the same way. I run Windows Update, and it fails all 55 updates first time. I re-try and everything is successful. Disk Cleanup hangs again on "Windows Update" files and I have to cancel. Luckily I am able to install my programs this time. When I run system file checker, it completes but gives an error message:

    "Windows Resource Protection could not perform the requested operation"


    To summarize my problem, it appears as if Windows 8 hangs in the middle of various tasks and multiple times I am unable to complete them. I thought it could be a problem with my SSD, but my Windows 7 dual boot works perfectly. I have given everything a good hour or so to make sure. Could it be a problem with the DVD? I don't think it is because I've used it before and had no problems, and it's an official DVD.

    Thanks guys for the help, I'm lost on this one, lol
    -McD

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  2. #2


    Posts : 1,093
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    Hi McDougal,

    You did a very nice job of explaining your issues. Now here are my "easy to say but tough to do" recommendations:

    Repeat the clean install process
    -Select Disable Windows Update
    Complete the installation
    Install chipset drivers and other drivers as required
    Change Windows Update to Notification Only (including driver updates)
    Selectively start to install the Windows Updates a few at a time*

    *I have encounter similar issue when Windows Update is trying to mass download/install the initial Windows Updates; however, sometimes it takes hours for this to complete and the delay seems to be associated with the integration of all those updates into the OS because I have a very fast internet connection and they download in a snap.

    If all is OK after installing the updates, start installing your programs and applications but nix using the Ninite for now.

    Test after all done and see what happens. Good luck.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 45
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 ; Ubuntu 13.10 x64


    Thanks JustATest for the reply!

    I will change the Windows Update settings as you said but I managed to get all updates installed. However, I have not yet installed the chipset driver, I will download and install that.

    Ninite has always been very helpful to me, and never gave me any problems, but I will install the programs without it this time. However, I am still getting the error for the system file checker.

    Has the system file checker message I am getting been seen before? Is there a know solution to it yet? I believe it is associated with the delay in the disk cleanup and ninite installation.

    Thanks again for the help, I'm glad you could understand my message!
    -McD
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  4. #4


    Posts : 1,093
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    I did miss that system file checker part. Anyway, I will still stand by my previous recommendations because you could waste hours (if not days) chasing that issue; however, if you do the clean install again, and you encounter similar roadblocks, and the same SFC error pops up, then you will have no choice but to pursue that fix in its entirety.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 45
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 ; Ubuntu 13.10 x64


    I am currently on my second clean install attempt and besides the Windows Updates (which are resolved now) and the hang on Disk Cleanup, everything is working normally. I have all my drivers up to date, and ran the WEI score. Now I am running sfc /scannow again to see if anything's changed.

    I did some quick research on Google and it appears this problem has been seen before, but I could not find an answer (again, a quick search).

    I will let you know about the scan results tomorrow, if it's the same then it may be a different issue.

    Thanks again for the help !
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  6. #6


    Posts : 1,093
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    That disk cleanup is a monster after applying all those updates. That takes hours to complete. I can show you an easier way to clear out all the remnants of those already applied updates (if you would like) and your disk cleanup should run in a snap on a subsequent run. Personally, I wouldn't have run sfc /scannow if everything is working OK.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 45
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 ; Ubuntu 13.10 x64


    I have finished my install of Windows 8.

    Everything is working normally so far, but system file checker has given me more information that may be helpful.

    I ran the scan and it completed and said there were corrupt files but it was unable to repair them. The information is in the CBS.log file which I can post if you like (looks like a ton of info in the file). I also ran a checkdisk which found problems and repaired them successfully.

    First though I am going to see if I can do a refresh, hopefully it will accept my DVD this time. If not, then I will have to look into this problem further.

    Thanks for the help !
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  8. #8


    Posts : 1,093
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    If your system is working normally, forget about the scf /scannow results. Some applications have the ability to overwrie system files and they would appear as exceptions. That is why I said if your system appears to be running normally, I wouldn't even bother to run that program. However, maybe your hard drive is starting to fail if checkdisk is finding errors. At this point, I would run checkdisk again. If no errors, forget about the sfc /scannow and start using your PC again. Hope this information has been helpful. Good luck.
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  9. #9


    Posts : 45
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 ; Ubuntu 13.10 x64


    The only problems I am having are with Windows Update (everything fails the first time) but it always works if I try it again. I have decided to not do a refresh because I don't have time to re-install all my programs again lol.

    My SSD is only a year old so I hope it's not starting to fail. However, I will run a chkdsk again. There is also the fact that I have a Windows 7 dual-boot on the same SSD and that install is works perfectly and is clean of errors.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 299
    Windows 8 Pro


    If you are going to re-do this at some point, note that it is usually recommended to do the chipset driver as the first thing after a Windows install. Also, I generally do the .net updates separately from other Windows updates since they have been known to create problems.
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