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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #831


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    The update did solve it for many it seems. I'm leaning more towards 3rd party AV, FW, or maintenance program that is in common.
    My bet is on maintenance
    Ya know, as soon as I pushed Alt/S to post I thought of pointing that out too. Thanks.

    Nothing screws up systems more than 3rd party maintenance programs. Thank the stars I was taught early on to stay away from them,

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  2. #832


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by kenJ View Post
    OK, I'll have another go at this. Let me ask a question and have you try something.

    For those that have done the updates and can't get your system to sleep, do you have other computers on your network?

    1. Unplugging the cable at the computer allows it to sleep (many reported this). If so, does unplugging and/or turning off all other computers and other wireless devices on the network permit sleep?
    2. If you have a wireless router, does disabling the wireless have any effect?
    3. Does unplugging the cable between your router to the internet have any effect on sleeping?


    And as a last question, what antivirus and firewall do you use?
    It's been awhile since I had Win 8.1 installed on this computer but I believe that even without the updates, (prior to their availability), your suggestions seem to be solid.

    1. Although I had more than one computer set up on my network, most of the time I only had one at a time running. I don't remember any difference between the rest of them on or off at any given time. This computer would never sleep when it was supposed to.

    2. Hmmmmm . . . I do have a wireless router (aren't they all wireless now?). I have one wired laser printer and two inkjet printers installed wirelessly. My computer is wired because for some reason downloading via wireless was slower than molasses in January. Could wireless printers have anything to do with the issue? Curiosity kilt StarFerret. Also, currently only one of the wireless printers is "active" and plugged into the wall; the 11 X 17 one is unplugged from the wall.

    3. I guess I can't try #3 since I still have Windows 8 rather than 8.1. Windows 8 seems to be behaving himself. However, it would seem that unplugging the router from the Internet would have the same effect as unplugging the ethernet cable.

    One other thing comes to mind: Not everyone will have a router. Most likely those who have only one computer will just have a modem, whether it be cable or otherwise.

    Both Windows 8 and Win 8.1 are/were the default "out of the box" so to speak . . . Windows firewall and Windows Defender.
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  3. #833


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by ectech View Post
    Just a thought.. I can't imagine with all the recommendations given in this thread that people are still having issues. I plan to condense everything into a single post for people who need things to try. Hopefully tonight I will get to it.
    John did that too, but go for it! It's been awhile and lots of stuff has been posted since.
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  4. #834


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Are you sure? Nice of you to do so, but that will be quite an undertaking indeed. That's a lot of data to sift through. A lot!

    If you do, may I suggest an Excel spread sheet with columns with member name, device type, Live or local account, network, AV, firewall, and > Oh man! > I could go on > A lot of variables! That's really has been the problem of solving this. A lot of variables.

    When all is finished with that phase then find a common denominator.

    Not saying it can't be done. Good luck!
    I'm known in my circle as the "Spreadsheet Queen" and I certainly wouldn't attempt it! Not at all! Good luck to him, though.
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  5. #835


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Hipsie, join Master Chief in thinking that the problem is due to "something installed", or "a program", or "wrong drivers", or "you missed something". So far, I don't think Master Chief has fixed anyone's sleep problems. Did any of his advice help someone yet?

    I got my system to fail after a clean install and only a few MS programs and updates installed. Nothing else. Then I went to do it again to get it down to a particular update or step and damn near accidentally erased all 3 of my hard drives. Gave up on that, especially since it was so close to just the clean install to rule out damn near everything else.

    My bet is with Microsoft as it all started with the Win8.1 update. April 8th is the next big chance that the issue is fixed with the big Win8.1.1 update.
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  6. #836


    Posts : 12
    8.1 x32


    Today's update: this morning was the first time in a long time that my computer was still asleep. However, simply setting my sleep time to 1 minute is currently still not working. For reference, I only tried two things yesterday:

    • Stopped Network Location Awareness. I tested this and computer would still not fall asleep.
    • Disabled all network adapters, one at a time. This also did not pass my test, so I re-enabled them all.

    Quote Originally Posted by kenJ View Post
    OK, I'll have another go at this. Let me ask a question and have you try something.

    For those that have done the updates and can't get your system to sleep, do you have other computers on your network?

    1. Unplugging the cable at the computer allows it to sleep (many reported this). If so, does unplugging and/or turning off all other computers and other wireless devices on the network permit sleep?
    2. If you have a wireless router, does disabling the wireless have any effect?
    3. Does unplugging the cable between your router to the internet have any effect on sleeping?


    And as a last question, what antivirus and firewall do you use?
    1. I have two iPhones on our network in addition to my computer, which is connected directly to the router. Turning wireless off on the iPhones does not help. To confirm the Ethernet solution, I tried it again just now and it did not work this time (i.e. computer still refuses to sleep even when unplugged). Sigh....why would that work over the weekend and not now?
    2. As unplugging the Ethernet cable currently doesn't have an effect, I don't think disabling the wireless on my router is going to either.
    3. Ditto.

    I also use the standard Windows 8 defender and firewall.

    Thanks to HippsieGypsie for the download link. I'll try it out soon.
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  7. #837


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Hipsie, join Master Chief in thinking that the problem is due to "something installed", or "a program", or "wrong drivers", or "you missed something". So far, I don't think Master Chief has fixed anyone's sleep problems. Did any of his advice help someone yet?
    How can you be so sure it hasn't? I didn't review the thread, but I think I responded to a few people on how to specifically better their system by a large margin.

    Any machine I make to work as I'd like 100% of the time. Anything else is nonsense and trash.

    It wouldn't surprise me if many with this problem are running uTorrent or something and still complaining like, "But why????"
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  8. #838


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Cplin, You just HAD to do it. "Unplug the network cable and see if the computer sleeps" you said. So i tried it and... nothing. My computer's sleep issue is no longer "fixed" by unplugging the network cable. So I have a morphing H1N1 flu of a sleep problem. My next step is to call the CDC in Atlanta or get the Helix team back from the Arctic.

    Sorry Master Chief, did not mean to snark at you. But it is still a question that I would like answered. Did anyone get the sleep issue fixed when you were working with MC? There were a bunches of posts of things you had them report and try, but I never saw a post like "that fixed it!", did you? I mean, if something worked, I would love to hear about it!
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  9. #839


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by MasterChief View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if many with this problem are running uTorrent or something and still complaining like, "But why????"
    Absolutely no uTorrent here. I completely stay away from those types of programs because I don't know enough about them to stay safe.
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  10. #840


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Well, it sleeps again. The only thing that I did was to enable Intel Smart Connect in the UEFI Bios and loaded the driver from ASUS. It shows up in my notification area but I did not enable it. Something to try anyways.

    I GIVE NO GUARANTEES that this fixes anything!
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