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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #721


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Well, shoot. Rockhound, I thought you had it! Interesting how long it took for the problem to show up again, eh? There is still a possibility that the released update will fix it. there has already been two leaked versions of the update so MS is still adding stuff. I still occasionally find my computer awake when it should be asleep but not too often. As for driver and errant program issues, we have been down that road TOO MANY times before to put a lot of time and effort into experimentation (but you probably will anyways!)
    I have found that I pretty much always manually sleep my computer now since I had so much practice! I just hit the power button when I finally haul my asterisk out of my chair. Too bad my keyboard does not have the sleep key that my Logitech keyboard on my HTPC does. That cannot get any simpler.

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  3. #723


    Posts : 1,883
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterChief View Post
    It was a question that is designed to get results. If you would have answered it, maybe it would have done something to help the situation.

    Just because someone makes an upgrade to an OS does not mean the rest of the system is right for that OS.

    If I see hard data like I keep asking for, this thread will likely get knocked down real quick with solutions. And then if not, only then will you have a new believer.
    My "hard data" for a brand new HP desktop computer and an older self-built desktop computer is that the minute I installed Win 8.1 the computers that slept with Windows 8.0 no longer sleep.

    There can be no more disparity between two computers than this. Yet, the fact is that although both slept before the 8.1 installation, neither would sleep after the 8.1 installation.

    Quite frankly, I don't need any more hard data than that to convince me.
    You're not understanding that something in your Win 8 install that behaved ok there could not behave ok on 8.1 - or at the very least - you're negating that possibility as if it can't exist.
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  4. #724


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhound View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterChief View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mw8t View Post

    Windows 8.1 clean install
    Intel chipset driver
    Realtek PCIe Lan controller
    Windows updates

    =

    SLEEP ISSUES
    Latest bios? Motherboard set well for power options?

    Tool "grab all" zip attached?

    I've seen literally 10s of thousands of machines online, and maybe 2-3 times I have found nothing wrong only. I'm sure there's something not right and if not, then congrats for being part of the small percentage. (Will that something "not right" be the actual cause? Only one way to find out.)

    Even if there is nothing wrong, then you all must have some common denominator besides 8.1. The whole world would be complaining and Microsoft would have fixed it by now because of the whole world complaining. That amount of dissatisfaction in regards to sleep is unseen.

    There would be major articles on the front page of every tech website.
    Masterchief, not to be disrespectful, but I have to disagree with you. You are correct in that this issue isn't prolific enough to be a headline on major tech websites. However, it must be a fairly substantial problem when this thread was started 7 months ago and has been viewed over 112,000 times during that time period. Doing the math, that's over 500 views each day. Also, as so many of us have found out, the topic has been discussed at great length on many other forums and boards. Microsoft did recognize that there was some type of problem and included KB2909528 in the December 2013 Rollup, which seemed to fix a significant part of the problem for many of us. Unfortunately, many of us have found that the fix isn't permanent and after awhile, our computers will no longer sleep on a timer.
    All I'm asking for is to give me a chance to look at some of these systems with problems, and nobody will oblige.

    The ball is not in my court.

    Everyone seems to want to disagree with me, but not let me diagnose for myself - something I am quite good at if you check BSOD subforum.

    If I can't get these systems under control for people after having tried, then I will change my stance on things.
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  5. #725


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    it sure seems to me that there should be a tool to inform you as to what is telling these things not to sleep. I mean a tool that actually works. If such a tool doesn't exist then how does did Microsoft possibly develop the software? If it doesn't exist then the code must be so fragmented that its literally unmanageable. If that's the case we are all wasting a lot of time on a quite elusive quest.
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  6. #726


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    if its a bug in 8.1 wouldn't it not work for everyone
    I don't use it ,but just set it sleep in 3 min,and it did and woke up with the move of my mouse
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  7. #727


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Master341643
    YChief;ou're not understanding that something in your Win 8 install that behaved ok there could not behave ok on 8.1 - or at the very least - you're negating that possibility as if it can't exist.
    I am specifically stating that something worked quite nicely in the 8.0 system installations, but did not work quite so nicely in both my 8.1 installations. BTW, the Microsoft Store installed 8.1 on both systems. So, what is it that I'm negating? That there's something wrong with Windows 8.1? That it's my systems and those of all the others who have the problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master341643
    All I'm asking for is to give me a chance to look at some of these systems with problems, and nobody will oblige.

    The ball is not in my court.

    Everyone seems to want to disagree with me, but not let me diagnose for myself - something I am quite good at if you check BSOD subforum.

    If I can't get these systems under control for people after having tried, then I will change my stance on things.
    The cold hard fact is that this is a public forum and although there may be four or five denizens I'd be inclined to trust, I'm not going to allow you or anyone else in this forum access to my system. It's called self preservation, pure and simple!

    Besides, from the more than 700 posts in this forum over the past seven or so months, I'm pretty sure if there were a simple answer for all of us, someone would have already come up with it.
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  8. #728


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by MasterChief View Post
    All I'm asking for is to give me a chance to look at some of these systems with problems, and nobody will oblige.

    The ball is not in my court.

    Everyone seems to want to disagree with me, but not let me diagnose for myself - something I am quite good at if you check BSOD subforum.

    If I can't get these systems under control for people after having tried, then I will change my stance on things.
    To put it bluntly, I don't know you; thus, dare not let you or anyone else in this forum inside my system. It's called self preservation.
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  9. #729


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    Wynona, I don't go inside peoples' systems to fix them.

    Yes, not even knowing what hardware you have, I know very much about your computers, down to each and every driver it needs to run well (regardless of company or model.)

    All I can say is that if you don't want my help, that is your choice, but it is wrong of you to the fullest to try to write off what I do for people or deny that I can fix something without giving the chance. Have you seen the BSOD subforum?
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  10. #730


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by MasterChief View Post
    Wynona, I don't go inside peoples' systems to fix them.

    Yes, not even knowing what hardware you have, I know very much about your computers, down to each and every driver it needs to run well (regardless of company or model.)

    All I can say is that if you don't want my help, that is your choice, but it is wrong of you to the fullest to try to write off what I do for people or deny that I can fix something without giving the chance. Have you seen the BSOD subforum?
    you got my vote ,not that anyone asked . I have read/followed many thread you offered help on ,and said to myself ,self ,this guy is good .
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