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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #681


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    @pokkop

    Seems like that's an issue with either your network drivers needing to be updated, or poor firewall application.

    If you have any other software with network drivers, such as any VPN software, anything Cisco etc....look at that too.

    It could also be that you have something using the actual network and the machine doesn't want to sleep because of it. When you disable the network, nothing can be transferred any longer and it sleeps then.

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  2. #682


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by MasterChief View Post
    @pokkop

    Seems like that's an issue with either your network drivers needing to be updated, or poor firewall application.

    If you have any other software with network drivers, such as any VPN software, anything Cisco etc....look at that too.

    It could also be that you have something using the actual network and the machine doesn't want to sleep because of it. When you disable the network, nothing can be transferred any longer and it sleeps then.
    I also think it's an app using the network connection, but what I don't understand is the sleeplessness only occurs after I wake from hibernation. From a fresh boot the machine sleeps automatically as set. What application/service would only kick in after hibernation?
    I have tried both old and newest network drivers, and have no special vpn or network software. My win 8.1 has only been installed for a few days. When I had windows 7 everything worked fine. Thanks for your input though...
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  3. #683


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    Sometimes, the mind ignores what it wants to, even against our own will.

    I noticed you made no mention of firewall. Is that because you don't have one (3rd party one I mean) or because you didn't want to consider it? heh

    And then there is always Device Manager to check. Look at your network adapter. Power Management tab for it. Check the box to allow it to save power and save.
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  4. #684


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center

    Potential Fix - Windows 8.1 Update 1


    Well, it's been a long time since I've posted. Like all the rest of you, I've just sat back and dealt with our problematic sleep issue the best way I could for the past few weeks/months. Like so many of you, I can easily get the automatic sleep function to work on a fresh boot. However, after a few days, the computer resorts to staying awake and refusing to sleep, just as the title of this now absolutely enormous thread says. We have all tried so many countless tips/tricks, including standing on our head, doing a rain dance, and praying to the gods. But alas, no permanent fix. The only way to finally get the computer to sleep again is to reboot the computer which seems to reset whatever caused it to get hung up in the first place.

    Well, I've got some potentially very good news to share. As some of you may know, Microsoft will soon be releasing Windows 8.1 Update 1. This new update contains all kinds of new features and revisions to the OS in order to merge the desktop and Metro environments a little closer. It also adds some additional keyboard and mouse functionality in Metro to just make life a little easier for all of us.

    Enough rambling already. What does this have to do with sleep? Well, I loaded an early build of Update 1 on a testing rig about 6 days ago. Previously, under Windows 8.1, I couldn't go more than about two to three days without having to reboot my computer, because it wouldn't automatically sleep anymore. On my testing rig with Update 1, I have now gone 6 whole days sleep/awake/sleep/awake/sleep/awake....you get the point. I've purposely waited and not posted anything here because I wanted to really make sure I was on to something. I mean, I've really spent some time testing this rig. I sit here and use the machine for 2 to three hours, then I'll walk away and the computer falls asleep on time, or at least as on time as I would expect. For example, if I set the timer to 3 minutes, it is fully asleep within 3 minutes 30 seconds. That's pretty good, I think. Then, I'll let it sleep for a pretty long time (10-12 hours) and wake it up, use it again for another hour or two and let it go to sleep again. Repeat this process all week long. Here we are, five/six days later and I've have not had a single issue. The computer sleeps on a very reliable schedule, just as we all have wanted. Like I said, I've never been able to get five whole days on Windows 8.1 without having to reboot the computer because it wouldn't sleep anymore. So far, I am extremely impressed. I haven't rebooted this computer since last Sunday night!!!

    Now all that said, I obviously can't guarantee that this is the final nail in our coffin, but this is the most promising fix I have experienced so far.

    If any of you are interested in trying it out for yourselves, it looks like Windows 8.1 Update 1 RTM Escrow was leaked today. Actually, I'm hoping that some of you will try it out so that we can share our experiences and verify whether my observations are correct or if this is just another dead end for us all.

    Update: Unfortunately, after about a week, the test rig stopped sleeping on a timer, just like with Windows 8.1. Sorry to disappoint you. I was really hopeful there for awhile.
    Last edited by Rockhound; 09 Feb 2014 at 21:19.
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  5. #685


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    Windows 8.1


    Although I'd love to try this out, as a former (most BTs were "fired" by Sinofsky) beta tester, I've never downloaded and installed a leaked version of anything and I just can't find it in myself to do it now. Just one of those things that my nature won't allow.
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  6. #686


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhound View Post
    Well, it's been a long time since I've posted. Like all the rest of you, I've just sat back and dealt with our problematic sleep issue the best way I could for the past few weeks/months. Like so many of you, I can easily get the automatic sleep function to work on a fresh boot. However, after a few days, the computer resorts to staying awake and refusing to sleep, just as the title of this now absolutely enormous thread says. We have all tried so many countless tips/tricks, including standing on our head, doing a rain dance, and praying to the gods. But alas, no permanent fix. The only way to finally get the computer to sleep again is to reboot the computer which seems to reset whatever caused it to get hung up in the first place.

    Well, I've got some potentially very good news to share. As some of you may know, Microsoft will soon be releasing Windows 8.1 Update 1. This new update contains all kinds of new features and revisions to the OS in order to merge the desktop and Metro environments a little closer. It also adds some additional keyboard and mouse functionality in Metro to just make life a little easier for all of us.

    Enough rambling already. What does this have to do with sleep? Well, I loaded an early build of Update 1 on a testing rig about 6 days ago. Previously, under Windows 8.1, I couldn't go more than about two to three days without having to reboot my computer, because it wouldn't automatically sleep anymore. On my testing rig with Update 1, I have now gone 6 whole days sleep/awake/sleep/awake/sleep/awake....you get the point. I've purposely waited and not posted anything here because I wanted to really make sure I was on to something. I mean, I've really spent some time testing this rig. I sit here and use the machine for 2 to three hours, then I'll walk away and the computer falls asleep on time, or at least as on time as I would expect. For example, if I set the timer to 3 minutes, it is fully asleep within 3 minutes 30 seconds. That's pretty good, I think. Then, I'll let it sleep for a pretty long time (10-12 hours) and wake it up, use it again for another hour or two and let it go to sleep again. Repeat this process all week long. Here we are, five/six days later and I've have not had a single issue. The computer sleeps on a very reliable schedule, just as we all have wanted. Like I said, I've never been able to get five whole days on Windows 8.1 without having to reboot the computer because it wouldn't sleep anymore. So far, I am extremely impressed. I haven't rebooted this computer since last Sunday night!!!

    Now all that said, I obviously can't guarantee that this is the final nail in our coffin, but this is the most promising fix I have experienced so far.

    If any of you are interested in trying it out for yourselves, it looks like Windows 8.1 Update 1 RTM Escrow was leaked today. Actually, I'm hoping that some of you will try it out so that we can share our experiences and verify whether my observations are correct or if this is just another dead end for us all.
    Just curious, did you allow it to wake itself for nightly maintenance and see if it would auto wake, do its thing, and then fall back asleep on it's own?
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  7. #687


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhound View Post
    Well, it's been a long time since I've posted. Like all the rest of you, I've just sat back and dealt with our problematic sleep issue the best way I could for the past few weeks/months. Like so many of you, I can easily get the automatic sleep function to work on a fresh boot. However, after a few days, the computer resorts to staying awake and refusing to sleep, just as the title of this now absolutely enormous thread says. We have all tried so many countless tips/tricks, including standing on our head, doing a rain dance, and praying to the gods. But alas, no permanent fix. The only way to finally get the computer to sleep again is to reboot the computer which seems to reset whatever caused it to get hung up in the first place.

    Well, I've got some potentially very good news to share. As some of you may know, Microsoft will soon be releasing Windows 8.1 Update 1. This new update contains all kinds of new features and revisions to the OS in order to merge the desktop and Metro environments a little closer. It also adds some additional keyboard and mouse functionality in Metro to just make life a little easier for all of us.

    Enough rambling already. What does this have to do with sleep? Well, I loaded an early build of Update 1 on a testing rig about 6 days ago. Previously, under Windows 8.1, I couldn't go more than about two to three days without having to reboot my computer, because it wouldn't automatically sleep anymore. On my testing rig with Update 1, I have now gone 6 whole days sleep/awake/sleep/awake/sleep/awake....you get the point. I've purposely waited and not posted anything here because I wanted to really make sure I was on to something. I mean, I've really spent some time testing this rig. I sit here and use the machine for 2 to three hours, then I'll walk away and the computer falls asleep on time, or at least as on time as I would expect. For example, if I set the timer to 3 minutes, it is fully asleep within 3 minutes 30 seconds. That's pretty good, I think. Then, I'll let it sleep for a pretty long time (10-12 hours) and wake it up, use it again for another hour or two and let it go to sleep again. Repeat this process all week long. Here we are, five/six days later and I've have not had a single issue. The computer sleeps on a very reliable schedule, just as we all have wanted. Like I said, I've never been able to get five whole days on Windows 8.1 without having to reboot the computer because it wouldn't sleep anymore. So far, I am extremely impressed. I haven't rebooted this computer since last Sunday night!!!

    Now all that said, I obviously can't guarantee that this is the final nail in our coffin, but this is the most promising fix I have experienced so far.

    If any of you are interested in trying it out for yourselves, it looks like Windows 8.1 Update 1 RTM Escrow was leaked today. Actually, I'm hoping that some of you will try it out so that we can share our experiences and verify whether my observations are correct or if this is just another dead end for us all.
    Just curious, did you allow it to wake itself for nightly maintenance and see if it would auto wake, do its thing, and then fall back asleep on it's own?
    Yes, I did. Well, let me clarify that. I didn't exactly sit here and watch the computer wake itself at 3:00 am (or whatever time tasks are scheduled for in Task Scheduler). However, I did not disable any of the scheduled nightly or daily maintenance tasks, so I have to assume that the computer woke itself during the night (or during the day), performed its scheduled maintenance, and then went back to sleep. As a comparison, my main computer running Windows 8.1 (if I haven't rebooted it in several days) will wake itself at some point during the night, and even during the day, and perform its scheduled maintenance, but will not go back to sleep. The only way to fix that issue on that computer is to reboot it.

    In fact, I pretty much haven't done much of anything on the test rig. All I really did was perform all of the Windows updates, update my graphics driver and change the power options to my liking. I started on a Local Account only for the first three days, then when everything seemed good, I signed in to a Microsoft account. I've been on the Microsoft account since Wednesday with no problems. I did not set up a Homegroup. In fact, I actually left the pre-installed Homegroup that the OS set up for me upon initial installation. Oh one more thing, I did disable Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service, just for good measure. I have not installed any programs or apps. This is just an OS.
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  8. #688


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhound View Post
    Well, it's been a long time since I've posted. Like all the rest of you, I've just sat back and dealt with our problematic sleep issue the best way I could for the past few weeks/months. Like so many of you, I can easily get the automatic sleep function to work on a fresh boot. However, after a few days, the computer resorts to staying awake and refusing to sleep, just as the title of this now absolutely enormous thread says. We have all tried so many countless tips/tricks, including standing on our head, doing a rain dance, and praying to the gods. But alas, no permanent fix. The only way to finally get the computer to sleep again is to reboot the computer which seems to reset whatever caused it to get hung up in the first place.

    Well, I've got some potentially very good news to share. As some of you may know, Microsoft will soon be releasing Windows 8.1 Update 1. This new update contains all kinds of new features and revisions to the OS in order to merge the desktop and Metro environments a little closer. It also adds some additional keyboard and mouse functionality in Metro to just make life a little easier for all of us.

    Enough rambling already. What does this have to do with sleep? Well, I loaded an early build of Update 1 on a testing rig about 6 days ago. Previously, under Windows 8.1, I couldn't go more than about two to three days without having to reboot my computer, because it wouldn't automatically sleep anymore. On my testing rig with Update 1, I have now gone 6 whole days sleep/awake/sleep/awake/sleep/awake....you get the point. I've purposely waited and not posted anything here because I wanted to really make sure I was on to something. I mean, I've really spent some time testing this rig. I sit here and use the machine for 2 to three hours, then I'll walk away and the computer falls asleep on time, or at least as on time as I would expect. For example, if I set the timer to 3 minutes, it is fully asleep within 3 minutes 30 seconds. That's pretty good, I think. Then, I'll let it sleep for a pretty long time (10-12 hours) and wake it up, use it again for another hour or two and let it go to sleep again. Repeat this process all week long. Here we are, five/six days later and I've have not had a single issue. The computer sleeps on a very reliable schedule, just as we all have wanted. Like I said, I've never been able to get five whole days on Windows 8.1 without having to reboot the computer because it wouldn't sleep anymore. So far, I am extremely impressed. I haven't rebooted this computer since last Sunday night!!!

    Now all that said, I obviously can't guarantee that this is the final nail in our coffin, but this is the most promising fix I have experienced so far.

    If any of you are interested in trying it out for yourselves, it looks like Windows 8.1 Update 1 RTM Escrow was leaked today. Actually, I'm hoping that some of you will try it out so that we can share our experiences and verify whether my observations are correct or if this is just another dead end for us all.
    If your pre-update 8.1 system stopped auto-sleeping after 2 or 3 days, could it be that it stops auto-sleeping only after going through hibernation, like mine? 'Cause that's what I observed. If I ever let mine hibernate (sleep at 30 min, hibernate at 3 hrs), after it wakes it will no longer go to sleep on timer.
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  9. #689


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    I see what you are saying. However, I do not have my computers set to hibernate, so the insomnia has always been related to something else.
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  10. #690


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Rockhound sounds very promising. Thanks a lot for your testing and sharing. I just heard that update one was now delayed until the March patch Tuesday. Unfortunately my 8.1 has now gone a bit flakey in ways other than just sleep. I'm going to see if update one will straighten it out and if not I'm afraid it will be a reinstall using update one code. Doesn't seem to be much point going through that until update one is released. I think I can get by until it's released.
    Last edited by NCguy; 08 Feb 2014 at 07:12.
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