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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #631


    Posts : 4
    Win8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    A cursory look through the logs hasn't revealed anything so far and best I can tell there aren't any tasks enabled that are configured to wake the machine. If anyone has spotted anything that happens in the night to look out for I would appreciate a reply.
    Have you checked Windows automatic maintenance settings? Normally this will wake up the PC in the middle of the night to run the maintenance. Having the problem described in this thread, you will find the PC active next morning. The settings are described here:

    Automatic Maintenance - Change Maintenance Settings in Windows 8

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  2. #632


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by Karl55 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    A cursory look through the logs hasn't revealed anything so far and best I can tell there aren't any tasks enabled that are configured to wake the machine. If anyone has spotted anything that happens in the night to look out for I would appreciate a reply.
    Have you checked Windows automatic maintenance settings? Normally this will wake up the PC in the middle of the night to run the maintenance. Having the problem described in this thread, you will find the PC active next morning. The settings are described here:

    Automatic Maintenance - Change Maintenance Settings in Windows 8
    Thanks, I'm pretty sure I reviewed the maintenance settings but I'll read the post and recheck.
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  3. #633


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Karl, I'm a bit confused. Why all the concerns about backup when it appears that you are just stopping a service? It sounds like you feel there is some potential here for something unexpected to happen?
    I think Karl is very careful . . . some of us charge ahead without thinking things through (that's me sometimes), and if we should hit a wrong key or click on the wrong item/object/line . . .

    OK, so if we accidentally do something wrong and can't correct it because we don't know exactly what we did to get there, that's when system restore would come in. So, yeah, there may be a potential for something unexpected.

    Being careful to create restore points is, in my opinion, the smart thing to do when messing around in the innards of computers if we don't want to all over the place.
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  4. #634


    Greetings all,

    I am a new 8.1 user and have been having some sleep issues as well, however after some poking around on the net and some experimenting it looks like my issues may be different from the ones most others are experiencing with 8.1.
    The first problem I encountered was that I couldn't get my laptop to enter sleep mode by closing the lid or by selecting Sleep in the start menu. The display shuts off, but the power remains on and there is no other activity - as in, Windows doesn't even log me out. As soon as I move the mouse or press a key on the keyboard, it comes back to life and it's really just as if I had pressed a button to shut off the screen when in reality I had wanted to put it in sleep mode. I admit I haven't read all 64 pages of this thread, but I read through the first 20, and maybe the last 10, and I fiddled around with some of the strategies you folks suggested, but none of it seemed to work.

    Then something caught me by surprise. Long story short, I discovered that the computer will go to sleep when it's supposed to if left idle for the amount of time stipulated in the power plan. From what I've read it appears that what's causing the most trouble for many 8.1 users is getting the computer to go to sleep on its own. Well, mine will go to sleep if I leave it alone, but it won't go to sleep when I ask it to. Go figure. On a hunch I tried unplugging it from the mains to see if it would go to sleep when running on battery power. Lo and behold, when I pressed the sleep button, in a mere 10 seconds it was dozing peacefully with the power light blinking to tell me so!

    So I can't help thinking that maybe my issue is something so simple I've overlooked it in the time I've spent messing around with the network settings and command prompts. That said, I've looked through the power options and I can't find any plausible reason why the computer wouldn't sleep while plugged in but has no issues while running on the battery. (For the record my laptop is a Toshiba P70-A, I just bought it last week to replace a faulty Asus X75VB that Asus Taiwan STILL has not got around to replacing for me even though it's been nearly 5 weeks and they said the replacement would ship in 1 to 2 weeks... but that's a whole different nightmare.)

    George P.
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  5. #635


    Posts : 15
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by silver102c3 View Post
    Greetings all,

    I am a new 8.1 user and have been having some sleep issues as well, however after some poking around on the net and some experimenting it looks like my issues may be different from the ones most others are experiencing with 8.1.
    The first problem I encountered was that I couldn't get my laptop to enter sleep mode by closing the lid or by selecting Sleep in the start menu. The display shuts off, but the power remains on and there is no other activity - as in, Windows doesn't even log me out. As soon as I move the mouse or press a key on the keyboard, it comes back to life and it's really just as if I had pressed a button to shut off the screen when in reality I had wanted to put it in sleep mode. I admit I haven't read all 64 pages of this thread, but I read through the first 20, and maybe the last 10, and I fiddled around with some of the strategies you folks suggested, but none of it seemed to work.

    Then something caught me by surprise. Long story short, I discovered that the computer will go to sleep when it's supposed to if left idle for the amount of time stipulated in the power plan. From what I've read it appears that what's causing the most trouble for many 8.1 users is getting the computer to go to sleep on its own. Well, mine will go to sleep if I leave it alone, but it won't go to sleep when I ask it to. Go figure. On a hunch I tried unplugging it from the mains to see if it would go to sleep when running on battery power. Lo and behold, when I pressed the sleep button, in a mere 10 seconds it was dozing peacefully with the power light blinking to tell me so!

    So I can't help thinking that maybe my issue is something so simple I've overlooked it in the time I've spent messing around with the network settings and command prompts. That said, I've looked through the power options and I can't find any plausible reason why the computer wouldn't sleep while plugged in but has no issues while running on the battery. (For the record my laptop is a Toshiba P70-A, I just bought it last week to replace a faulty Asus X75VB that Asus Taiwan STILL has not got around to replacing for me even though it's been nearly 5 weeks and they said the replacement would ship in 1 to 2 weeks... but that's a whole different nightmare.)

    George P.
    The majority of us have problems related to the computer not sleeping when left alone! Many of us are using desktop - not laptop - computers that require power. When left alone to sleep, they fail to sleep. Perhaps you need to read the remainder of the forum messages and see what a nightmare this is for us!
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  6. #636


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Silver, welcome to the eightforums!
    laptops have a distinct power scheme than do desktops. When you close the lid, it does what its specified in the advanced sleep settings in the power settings. that could include, hibernation, hybrid sleep, sleep, or shutdown according to whether you are on battery or not. You need to read carefully the owners manual to see how you manufacturers have the power settings set up and set it to what you want to happen. Sleep (S3?) is fine if you are plugged in but hibernate/shutdown is best if you are on battery. I don't believe you are having any issue more than proper setting of the power states in the control panel.
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  7. #637


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Can anyone tell me what's going on with my logs? At 12:24 I manually sent my pc into sleep. It entered sleep normally as indicated by the blinking processor light. I waited a few seconds and hit a key to wake the machine. It woke up and I logged in at around 12:24 pm. In the log I've attached the kernel-general event is the clock sync which is followed by the MEI-x64 event which is the startup of the management engine.

    Where is the sleep, wake, and actual login events? I see these events in other places in the log but why are they often times not being recorded in the logs? Is there a setting in the logs that I'm missing? This is very strange. It's really going to be difficult to pin down sleep issues without a reliable system log.


    Update: the "new events available on the log" was an unrelated skype service apparently starting




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  8. #638


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    NCguy, use the sleep button or other means to sleep your computer while your log is still showing. You will then see what events are recorded when the computer sleeps and wakes up. Mine seemed to be these:

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  9. #639


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    johnpombrio, those events that I posted were the only events on a forced sleep. The computer did enter sleep. For some reason the kernel-power and power-troubleshooter events just aren't being posted to the log or for some reason they aren't displaying. I have seen them post in the log in the past (possibly prior to 8.1 upgrade) but for some reason they aren't in there now?

    Very puzzling and I'm not sure what my next troubleshooting step needs to be to get the logs working correctly?
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  10. #640


    I see that Microsoft has a few updates for windows 8.1. Are we going to have any luck??
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