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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #571


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    My Windows 8.1 Pro wmc goes to sleep at the designated time.

    I did this:

    Windows 8.1 won't sleep | fixedByVonnie

    All but the Ethernet change.

    I also did this:

    Sleep and hibernation: frequently asked questions

    A picture:

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    I tested it by setting it to sleep after 1 minute.
    It took longer but it did go to sleep.

    I disabled using a password on waking.

    I just tested it again & it worked like a charm.

    EDIT-- It took about 2 minutes.

    Edit-2-- I set it for 1 hour & it went to sleep at exactly 1 hour.

    Edit-3-- If you are on a network see the posts on resetting all the computers.

    For the home user with 1 computer this seems to be a good solution.
    Last edited by David Bailey; 02 Jan 2014 at 01:42.

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  2. #572


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    This is a definite sure fire way to get an idea what's causing it for sure... disconnect you cable or Wi-Fi service and if the PC sleeps, you know it's a network problem.

    It's been stated here and elsewhere that 8.1 may have a bug with regards to networking issues which prevents PC's from sleeping. And that the best way to fix it is to have all systems leave the current Home Group and re-establish a new one with all computers on, and using the same password for all.

    I've not re-established my home group yet, but I can say that since leaving home group Win 8.1 now sleeps without issue.

    You can see these posts... Windows 8.1 Won't Sleep When Idle - Page 2 - Microsoft (Windows) Discussion & Support - Neowin Forums to get an idea what I'm talking about, including one by our very own johnpombrio - Windows 8.1 does not go to sleep / standby automatically. Please read the thread though as some steps may be unnecessary or even work. BUT.... if your PC sleeps when disconnected from the network, it's definitely a network problem.

    Good luck.
    Sygnus, the overriding symptom was indeed that unplugging or disabling the network adapter would let the computer sleep. However, there has been no firm proof that disabling Homegroup or any particular network setting (like disabling IPV6) is a permanent fix for the issue. I thought that was the case but the problem reoccurred a couple of days later. Right now, I have Homegroup running and my computer sleeps fine after the Dec 11th update from MS. I spent a LOT of time fooling with the network without any fix that worked for long. A symptom or cause that unplugging the network cable fixes it is still unknown.
    Which is why I said read everything because things may not work. However I'm extremely confident the issue for most lays in networking; an issue Microsoft clearly needs to address, as I too think there's some type of bug somewhere.

    At any rate for now I'm running without Home Group but that can't or wont last for long as I need my network up and running. I'll try setting up every thing at the same time and hope that sticks

    Thanks.
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  3. #573


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    This is a definite sure fire way to get an idea what's causing it for sure... disconnect you cable or Wi-Fi service and if the PC sleeps, you know it's a network problem.

    It's been stated here and elsewhere that 8.1 may have a bug with regards to networking issues which prevents PC's from sleeping. And that the best way to fix it is to have all systems leave the current Home Group and re-establish a new one with all computers on, and using the same password for all.

    I've not re-established my home group yet, but I can say that since leaving home group Win 8.1 now sleeps without issue.

    You can see these posts... Windows 8.1 Won't Sleep When Idle - Page 2 - Microsoft (Windows) Discussion & Support - Neowin Forums to get an idea what I'm talking about, including one by our very own johnpombrio - Windows 8.1 does not go to sleep / standby automatically. Please read the thread though as some steps may be unnecessary or even work. BUT.... if your PC sleeps when disconnected from the network, it's definitely a network problem.

    Good luck.
    Sygnus, the overriding symptom was indeed that unplugging or disabling the network adapter would let the computer sleep. However, there has been no firm proof that disabling Homegroup or any particular network setting (like disabling IPV6) is a permanent fix for the issue. I thought that was the case but the problem reoccurred a couple of days later. Right now, I have Homegroup running and my computer sleeps fine after the Dec 11th update from MS. I spent a LOT of time fooling with the network without any fix that worked for long. A symptom or cause that unplugging the network cable fixes it is still unknown.
    Which is why I said read everything because things may not work. However I'm extremely confident the issue for most lays in networking; an issue Microsoft clearly needs to address, as I too think there's some type of bug somewhere.

    At any rate for now I'm running without Home Group but that can't or wont last for long as I need my network up and running. I'll try setting up every thing at the same time and hope that sticks

    Thanks.
    How about networking without homegroup?
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  4. #574


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    I want to solve this issue as much as anyone here and I dont plan to give up. I am a desktop user, I use a powerful pc, and I don't like wasting power.

    FWIW, I recently built a new windows 8.1 core I7 haswell desktop pc with 12gb ram, 500 watt power supply, 3 monitors, 4TB harddrive, SSD, optical drives etc. I tested the pc power consumption when the pc was idle but not sleeping. To my amazement the power consumption was only 30 watts. So while I want to solve this it's good to know that it won't break the bank if it's not possible to solve it. I also realize that power consumption may not be the reason most people care about sleep.
    Last edited by NCguy; 02 Jan 2014 at 09:33.
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  5. #575


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8.1

    Found a fix - although this may only apply to some.


    Hi guys... good news well for some anyways..



    I have just managed to find a fix myself FINALLY! (to do with the AMD Radeon 7730M graphics driver...)


    I did a bit of digging around the internet and found this link:
    AMD Radeon HD 7730M - Laptop General Hardware Forum - Laptop - Dell Community

    which has seemed to solve my issue!


    I only downloaded this link below and without having to reinstall anything and installed the file from AMD's Catalyst Display Driver site/software.

    Desktop


    My laptop now sleeps within 3 seconds and now wakes up within 1 second now .
    I have Intel Graphics HD 4000 and AMD Radeon HD 7730M installed on my Dell 7520 15R SE with Windows 8.1
    This may not help EVERYONE but hey it's worth a try.

    P.S

    Remember to not to update the driver when you are done. This will change the driver back to the original and "better" Microsoft driver.

    I have read around 15 odd pages and felt like I was attached to this forum/thread so I signed up just now and posted my solution so hopefully this helps at-least ONE person.
    Last edited by figorulz11; 02 Jan 2014 at 13:17.
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  6. #576


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    How about networking without homegroup?
    I don't think you can network on a home system without being in a home group. I'm not a network guru though.

    That said, since leaving my home group, I can see any of my other systems on the network - to include my other two PCs' and my TV. So yeah, I need my home group back. I'll do that later on though.

    @ NCguy, I too recently just built a Haswell system with Win 8.1 as the OS. See system specs. Anyway never had sleep issues under Windows 7. And though my laptop has 8.1 I never notice sleep issues because I usually just shut down after use or simply close the lid, so It's kind of hard to notice sleep issue there. Anyway looking at it now, it too may have sleep issues, but I just never noticed.

    @ figorulz11, while yours seems to be driver related, most are network related. Point is, you fix may not be suitable for everyone here. However it is something to look at (driver issues).

    Thanks
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  7. #577


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    How about networking without homegroup?
    I don't think you can network on a home system without being in a home group. I'm not a network guru though.

    That said, since leaving my home group, I can see any of my other systems on the network - to include my other two PCs' and my TV. So yeah, I need my home group back. I'll do that later on though.

    @ NCguy, I too recently just built a Haswell system with Win 8.1 as the OS. See system specs. Anyway never had sleep issues under Windows 7. And though my laptop has 8.1 I never notice sleep issues because I usually just shut down after use or simply close the lid, so It's kind of hard to notice sleep issue there. Anyway looking at it now, it too may have sleep issues, but I just never noticed.

    @ figorulz11, while yours seems to be driver related, most are network related. Point is, you fix may not be suitable for everyone here. However it is something to look at (driver issues).

    Thanks
    yes, you can network without homegroup but I don't think you can do both at the same time. I also don't know if you'll have sleep issues with standard networking - I kind of doubt it.

    http://mobile.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to...-in-windows-7/
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  8. #578


    @NCguy. Of course you can have a network without homegroup. How do you think we did this before homegroup?? If you also have XP or Vista comps they can't join homegroups so you have to do it the old-fashioned way!

    Never used homegroups, myself, as I prefer to have manual control. I also have an XP and Vista comp here.
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  9. #579


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    @NCguy. Of course you can have a network without homegroup. How do you think we did this before homegroup?? If you also have XP or Vista comps they can't join homegroups so you have to do it the old-fashioned way!

    Never used homegroups, myself, as I prefer to have manual control. I also have an XP and Vista comp here.
    read the thread. I wasn't the one saying this couldn't be done. I was the one saying it could.
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  10. #580


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    How about networking without homegroup?
    I don't think you can network on a home system without being in a home group. I'm not a network guru though.

    That said, since leaving my home group, I can see any of my other systems on the network - to include my other two PCs' and my TV. So yeah, I need my home group back. I'll do that later on though.

    @ NCguy, I too recently just built a Haswell system with Win 8.1 as the OS. See system specs. Anyway never had sleep issues under Windows 7. And though my laptop has 8.1 I never notice sleep issues because I usually just shut down after use or simply close the lid, so It's kind of hard to notice sleep issue there. Anyway looking at it now, it too may have sleep issues, but I just never noticed.

    @ figorulz11, while yours seems to be driver related, most are network related. Point is, you fix may not be suitable for everyone here. However it is something to look at (driver issues).

    Thanks
    yes, you can network without homegroup but I don't think you can do both at the same time. I also don't know if you'll have sleep issues with standard networking - I kind of doubt it.

    How to share folders without homegroups in Windows 7 - PC Advisor
    It was me who said that. That said...

    I already know how to share folders. However I prefer Home Group because of the flexibility it affords me. However as I've stated, I've not yet looked into re-establishing my Home Group setup but it is my hope that re-establishing it will fix my sleep issue. But, yeah, I could share folders, haven't tested to see if the sleep issue come back, but I prefer Home Group.

    Thanks

    Oh, and what do you mean by this.... "I also don't know if you'll have sleep issues with standard networking" ??? While all of my PC's are on the same network, since removing my PC from Home Group, no sleep issues.
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