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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #561


    Posts : 61
    Windows 8.1 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Mas View Post
    Microsoft has changed how you close those apps from Win8 to Win8.1. In the past, you just pulled them down and they were closed. Now you need to pull them down, wait until they flip, and then let go of them for a proper shutdown of those apps. If you just pull them down and let go, they will disappear from the menu on the left, but if you look in Task Manager, you will see that they are still loaded. That's why I always press CTRL-SHIFT-ESC before I leave the PC to check if everything is closed properly. You can still force your PC to go to sleep, but after it has run a nightly task, it doesn't go to sleep again if any of those Metro Apps are still in Task Manager.
    I am glad I saw this part as well, that I did not know. I did new system build recently and installed 8.1, I was wondering how come sometimes after closing an app in Metro it still showed running in task manager, or when I moved cursor to upper left corner in the Metro GUI, and sometimes they were closed instead.

    Now I know, can mark that off the list of things that make me go hmmm.


    Btw, my new system build so far has no problems with sleep, although the dang thing boots so fast with UEFI and SSD hard drive, don't really need it unless I just want to have some things on my desktop as was when I slept it.

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  2. #562


    Thanks, Rudy. Didn't know about the app close change. Wonder how many other tricks are unknown to me!
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  3. #563


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    well my issues are definitely related to my network cause if I disconnected the network cable from the PC it goes to sleep.

    Now I just need to find what in the network is causing the sleep issue.
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  4. #564


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Yeah that is a ton of stuff there. I don't know, guess I'll have to get use to manually putting it to sleep till a more reasonable solution can be found. It's frustrating because I built this new rig with Win 8 in mind. Between IE11 issues and now this BS which is posted all over the net, I may just dump 8 and go back to 7.

    Don't really want to do that but these BS nagging issues are starting to build to a boiling point now
    For awhile I had my dual boot system (7 & 8.1) on the desk beside this one, and went back to Win 7 every so often. Talk about your sloooooooooowwwwwwww moving systems! So, she's packed up ready for the move to another state in a few months.

    Windows 7 was the best OS so far, except that Win 8's so much faster and I'm finally getting used to it. Once MS fixes the sleep issue, I'll put Windows 8.1 back on this system, but for now, Windows 8 works just fine.
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  5. #565


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8.1


    I have been trying everything I read on every forum to try to get my computer to go to sleep. I followed everything in this thread and nothing worked. I even installed MCE standby tool and watched the countdown to sleep and see it reset every couple seconds trying to close out programs, disconnect usb devices, etc to make it go to sleep. NOTHING. Finally today I noticed my western digital raptor drive that holds all my steam games on it has been very noisy so I disconnected it. Viola!!! Computer now goes to sleep. I don't think the drive was bad and maybe steam had nothing to do with it, maybe windows had installed something on the other drive that caused it to keep reading every few seconds and keeping the computer from entering sleep mode? I'm throwing this out there for an option for other people to try and see if that helps.
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  6. #566


    Quote Originally Posted by Hdgamer View Post
    I have been trying everything I read on every forum to try to get my computer to go to sleep. I followed everything in this thread and nothing worked. I even installed MCE standby tool and watched the countdown to sleep and see it reset every couple seconds trying to close out programs, disconnect usb devices, etc to make it go to sleep. NOTHING. Finally today I noticed my western digital raptor drive that holds all my steam games on it has been very noisy so I disconnected it. Viola!!! Computer now goes to sleep. I don't think the drive was bad and maybe steam had nothing to do with it, maybe windows had installed something on the other drive that caused it to keep reading every few seconds and keeping the computer from entering sleep mode? I'm throwing this out there for an option for other people to try and see if that helps.
    I have tried all of the fixes discussed here and elsewhere over the last couple of months and have been disappointed in a day or two when they no longer worked. I hope your fix sticks! A few days ago my PC started sleeping reliably for a day and I had made no changes, then it stopped again. Very frustrating. I wish I cold remember to force sleep when I get up from my desk, but I usually forget. Very frustrating. I am skeptical that there will be a fix for this, but hopeful.
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  7. #567


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    This is a definite sure fire way to get an idea what's causing it for sure... disconnect you cable or Wi-Fi service and if the PC sleeps, you know it's a network problem.

    It's been stated here and elsewhere that 8.1 may have a bug with regards to networking issues which prevents PC's from sleeping. And that the best way to fix it is to have all systems leave the current Home Group and re-establish a new one with all computers on, and using the same password for all.

    I've not re-established my home group yet, but I can say that since leaving home group Win 8.1 now sleeps without issue.

    You can see these posts... Windows 8.1 Won't Sleep When Idle - Page 2 - Microsoft (Windows) Discussion & Support - Neowin Forums to get an idea what I'm talking about, including one by our very own johnpombrio - Windows 8.1 does not go to sleep / standby automatically. Please read the thread though as some steps may be unnecessary or even work. BUT.... if your PC sleeps when disconnected from the network, it's definitely a network problem.

    Good luck.
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  8. #568


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    This is a definite sure fire way to get an idea what's causing it for sure... disconnect you cable or Wi-Fi service and if the PC sleeps, you know it's a network problem.

    It's been stated here and elsewhere that 8.1 may have a bug with regards to networking issues which prevents PC's from sleeping. And that the best way to fix it is to have all systems leave the current Home Group and re-establish a new one with all computers on, and using the same password for all.

    I've not re-established my home group yet, but I can say that since leaving home group Win 8.1 now sleeps without issue.

    You can see these posts... Windows 8.1 Won't Sleep When Idle - Page 2 - Microsoft (Windows) Discussion & Support - Neowin Forums to get an idea what I'm talking about, including one by our very own johnpombrio - Windows 8.1 does not go to sleep / standby automatically. Please read the thread though as some steps may be unnecessary or even work. BUT.... if your PC sleeps when disconnected from the network, it's definitely a network problem.

    Good luck.
    Sygnus, the overriding symptom was indeed that unplugging or disabling the network adapter would let the computer sleep. However, there has been no firm proof that disabling Homegroup or any particular network setting (like disabling IPV6) is a permanent fix for the issue. I thought that was the case but the problem reoccurred a couple of days later. Right now, I have Homegroup running and my computer sleeps fine after the Dec 11th update from MS. I spent a LOT of time fooling with the network without any fix that worked for long. A symptom or cause that unplugging the network cable fixes it is still unknown.
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  9. #569


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    This is a definite sure fire way to get an idea what's causing it for sure... disconnect you cable or Wi-Fi service and if the PC sleeps, you know it's a network problem.

    It's been stated here and elsewhere that 8.1 may have a bug with regards to networking issues which prevents PC's from sleeping. And that the best way to fix it is to have all systems leave the current Home Group and re-establish a new one with all computers on, and using the same password for all.

    I've not re-established my home group yet, but I can say that since leaving home group Win 8.1 now sleeps without issue.

    You can see these posts... Windows 8.1 Won't Sleep When Idle - Page 2 - Microsoft (Windows) Discussion & Support - Neowin Forums to get an idea what I'm talking about, including one by our very own johnpombrio - Windows 8.1 does not go to sleep / standby automatically. Please read the thread though as some steps may be unnecessary or even work. BUT.... if your PC sleeps when disconnected from the network, it's definitely a network problem.

    Good luck.
    Leaving homegroup, and disconnecting my ethernet cables, and even disabling IPV6 did nothing on none of my computers. Was a dead end and computer still woudln't sleep. My one computer did sleep after disconnect the hdd though. I still think Windows was trying to access something off the drive keeping the pc in awake mode. Even the monitor wasn't turning off.
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  10. #570


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Hdgamer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    This is a definite sure fire way to get an idea what's causing it for sure... disconnect you cable or Wi-Fi service and if the PC sleeps, you know it's a network problem.

    It's been stated here and elsewhere that 8.1 may have a bug with regards to networking issues which prevents PC's from sleeping. And that the best way to fix it is to have all systems leave the current Home Group and re-establish a new one with all computers on, and using the same password for all.

    I've not re-established my home group yet, but I can say that since leaving home group Win 8.1 now sleeps without issue.

    You can see these posts... Windows 8.1 Won't Sleep When Idle - Page 2 - Microsoft (Windows) Discussion & Support - Neowin Forums to get an idea what I'm talking about, including one by our very own johnpombrio - Windows 8.1 does not go to sleep / standby automatically. Please read the thread though as some steps may be unnecessary or even work. BUT.... if your PC sleeps when disconnected from the network, it's definitely a network problem.

    Good luck.
    Leaving homegroup, and disconnecting my ethernet cables, and even disabling IPV6 did nothing on none of my computers. Was a dead end and computer still woudln't sleep. My one computer did sleep after disconnect the hdd though. I still think Windows was trying to access something off the drive keeping the pc in awake mode. Even the monitor wasn't turning off.
    Try using the MCE Standby tool, disconnect all usb devices and then hdd and see if the countdown still resets. If it does then it's something else deeper within windows, but if not you caught the problem. It's a usb device, driver for it, or hdd problem.
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