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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #541


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    I have been absent from this thread for a long time and am now trying to catch up with the latest developments.

    For me as for magilla, the latest update has not brought any improvement. However, when I log out and stay on the "welcome screen" of windows, the PC sleeps. Same if i disable ethernet of course. Should I conclude that if I mirgrate from a MS to a local account this is the best possible workaround at the moment until MS patches this? Or do I need to disable Skydrive as well?

    Thanks

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  2. #542


    7am Christmas day here in NZ so compliments of the season to all. Just wish Microsoft would put on a red suit and white beard to deliver a solution to these problems!

    Steve, I really don't think anyone can answer your questions other than to say 'suck it and see'. And even when you think you have an improvement, hopes can be dashed a week (day?) later.

    I am on a local account now and I do get sleep happening but it is still erratic, especially the time delay period.

    So I am just hoping for a real answer but I am not holding my breath. I am still amazed that MS engineers, with all the tools at their command, can't track this one down. After all, they must know what they changed from 8 to 8.1.

    Cheers and best wishes.

    Lindsay.
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  3. #543


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    7am Christmas day here in NZ so compliments of the season to all. Just wish Microsoft would put on a red suit and white beard to deliver a solution to these problems!
    Merry Christmas to you too, Lindsay. It's Christmas Eve here and I have to go to the store to get some last minute items for dinner and incidentally, to get trampled more than likely.

    No white Christmas in Texas, USA, but a very nice and sunny 56 or so today and tomorrow. Can't ask for better than that.

    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    So I am just hoping for a real answer but I am not holding my breath. I am still amazed that MS engineers, with all the tools at their command, can't track this one down. After all, they must know what they changed from 8 to 8.1.

    Cheers and best wishes.

    Lindsay.
    I was told by an HP tech that NumLock is disabled for security reasons, yet, I MUST turn it on if I wish to use the keypad on my keyboard. Oh, yeah, and the top row of numbers on my keyboard work just fine on bootup, so where's the security in that?!?

    With logic like this, is it any wonder the engineers can't track the sleep problem down? However, to be fair, there are a LOT of different brands of computers out here. It's a given that the OEM has tweaked Windows 8 (like HP did mine on NumLock), so again, is it any wonder the engineers can't track the problems down?

    Maybe we should all give our computer's make, model CPU brand (or self-built with CPU brand) and how SLEEP works OR NOT. I know some of the more guruish of us have an inkling how this is going, but most of us don't.

    Whatcha think?

    Hoooo Boyyyyyyy! I just checked my system and it says it's the self-built dual boot with an Intel Dual Core, and the rest of the specs to go with it. Sadly, I packed that computer up yesterday and stored it until we get moved to Arkansas (gotta sell out here first).

    Guess I'll poke around in my Profile and see if I can change that.
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  4. #544

    Three quick tests


    Just a little more data to throw on the pile:

    My problem is typical of what has been written on this thread-- "fixes" seem to work for a day or so and then the insomnia starts again; works a little while after reboot; unplugging the network cable works like Ambien.

    So I did three quick tests. My PC has not been rebooted for a while, and is not sleeping except when done manually. 1) As a "control" test, I unplugged the network cable and it went to sleep right on time as expected. 2) Woke it up, plugged the cable back in. No sleep. 3) Signed out (which logs me out of the MS account) and left it on the sign-in screen. Went to sleep at the expected time.

    So nothing new really for the thread, but it is confirmation to me that my PC (albeit a 2007 vintage HP) is not "special", i.e. it works similarly to many others' here.

    John
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  5. #545


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by johnix2013 View Post
    Just a little more data to throw on the pile:

    My problem is typical of what has been written on this thread-- "fixes" seem to work for a day or so and then the insomnia starts again; works a little while after reboot; unplugging the network cable works like Ambien.

    So I did three quick tests. My PC has not been rebooted for a while, and is not sleeping except when done manually. 1) As a "control" test, I unplugged the network cable and it went to sleep right on time as expected. 2) Woke it up, plugged the cable back in. No sleep. 3) Signed out (which logs me out of the MS account) and left it on the sign-in screen. Went to sleep at the expected time.

    So nothing new really for the thread, but it is confirmation to me that my PC (albeit a 2007 vintage HP) is not "special", i.e. it works similarly to many others' here.

    John
    Funny that MS came up with a cure for some of us with the last major Win8.1 update but not for all. Just check once a week for updating all your drivers and hope for the best. In the meantime, just manually sleep your computer. Mine seems to be completely cured but I am still in awe that the computer is asleep when I walk by, heh.
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  6. #546


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnix2013 View Post
    Just a little more data to throw on the pile:

    My problem is typical of what has been written on this thread-- "fixes" seem to work for a day or so and then the insomnia starts again; works a little while after reboot; unplugging the network cable works like Ambien.

    So I did three quick tests. My PC has not been rebooted for a while, and is not sleeping except when done manually. 1) As a "control" test, I unplugged the network cable and it went to sleep right on time as expected. 2) Woke it up, plugged the cable back in. No sleep. 3) Signed out (which logs me out of the MS account) and left it on the sign-in screen. Went to sleep at the expected time.

    So nothing new really for the thread, but it is confirmation to me that my PC (albeit a 2007 vintage HP) is not "special", i.e. it works similarly to many others' here.

    John
    Funny that MS came up with a cure for some of us with the last major Win8.1 update but not for all. Just check once a week for updating all your drivers and hope for the best. In the meantime, just manually sleep your computer. Mine seems to be completely cured but I am still in awe that the computer is asleep when I walk by, heh.
    John, I understand from your post that your PCs now work as intended, i.e. sleep automatically even if perhaps there is still some lag. Can you summarize your settings? Do you use an MS or local account? Is Homegroup and ipv6 on or off? This would be most helpful as the reason why it is fixed for you now since the latest patch and not for others like me is probably a matter of configuration. I would particularly be interested in your Ivy Bridge machine as this is the one I have.
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  7. #547


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Steve, all settings are back to the original default settings. The ONLY machine I had problems with is a Haswell computer, not my other two Ivy bridge machines. Local or log in does not matter, both work. Homegroup is running and I left IP6 alone so that is running. Except for my usual stuff (Hibernation disabled to make room on SSD by getting rid of hibfile.sys, media sharing left to sleep, network and mouse not allowed to wake the computer), I have nothing that I am still using that we tried to fix the problem. It simply works, settings no longer matter except for the usual suspects. Sorry that the upgrade did not help you too.
    BTW, I did do a fresh install using a Win8.1 Pro USB thumb drive/ iso tho rather than a update.
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  8. #548


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Steve, all settings are back to the original default settings. The ONLY machine I had problems with is a Haswell computer, not my other two Ivy bridge machines. Local or log in does not matter, both work. Homegroup is running and I left IP6 alone so that is running. Except for my usual stuff (Hibernation disabled to make room on SSD by getting rid of hibfile.sys, media sharing left to sleep, network and mouse not allowed to wake the computer), I have nothing that I am still using that we tried to fix the problem. It simply works, settings no longer matter except for the usual suspects. Sorry that the upgrade did not help you too.
    Is there anything you can suggest for haswell? I'm really at the end of my rope.
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  9. #549


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post

    Is there anything you can suggest for Haswell? I'm really at the end of my rope.
    My problem existed SOLELY due to MS and was fixed by them. Have you tried a fresh install to get your machine back to a known state? I am lucky as I have a licensed copy of 8.1 Pro so I can do it without updating. I cannot offer any suggestions other than the list I created around post 176 or so which are the commonsense, normal sleep issues.
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  10. #550


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post

    Is there anything you can suggest for Haswell? I'm really at the end of my rope.
    My problem existed SOLELY due to MS and was fixed by them. Have you tried a fresh install to get your machine back to a known state? I am lucky as I have a licensed copy of 8.1 Pro so I can do it without updating. I cannot offer any suggestions other than the list I created around post 176 or so which are the commonsense, normal sleep issues.
    I'm sorry but I've not gone through this entire thread so what was your fix because my Windows 8.1 machine refuses to sleep as well. This too is a haswell machine with 32gig of RAM.

    Also you say "Microsoft" provided a fix? Where? because I keep my machines updated and thus far none of the Windows updates seems to have fixed the issue.

    Thanks.
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