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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #341


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Mas View Post

    The only thing I changed was enabling 'Prevent the usage of Skydrive for file Storage' . All the other settings are back to their original settings.

    My apps started working on their own the moment I enabled the above setting in Windows. I didn't need to reinstall them. But that won't say that all the apps you use will do this. I had only a problem with my Photos app. The few other apps, like weather, didn't have a problem on my system.
    Rudy, where is the 'Prevent the usage of Skydrive for file Storage' setting? Is that the correct wording as I cannot find it in any of the usual places. I need it to pass over to the folks at the Metro apps not working post.

    Edit: Rudy slaps his head in disgust and just points at my post. DOH!
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 16 Nov 2013 at 20:29.

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  2. #342


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Very interesting! After disabling Skydrive, I disabled all the sync settings in the Start/Metro PC Settings page and then tried two things. First I just put the computer to sleep with a one minute timer. It went to sleep ALMOST IMMEDIATELY! No more of this wait for five or more minutes before sleeping for me.

    Before the computer goes to sleep, it looks like it tries to sync to Skydrive. If it cannot connect, it is possible that it just keeps trying and never lets the computer sleep. It MAY connect (or time out) but it takes a long time to do so, causing a long wait for the computer to sleep.

    With sync disabled and Skydrive once again enabled, the computer would sleep (for how many times in a row, I do not know) but again would have a long wait. For me, a cold boot seems to make it able to sync more reliably so that is why it was so intermittent.

    Ahhh, reliable sleep without the wait. Bliss!

    NOW I can afford to damn Microsoft for causing this whole mess by trying to force integrating Skydrive onto our computers to the point where it interferes with its basic operation.
    Cool, is that mean that I can go back to MS account, but not sync options?

    i think SDrive fails because some registry keys don't have enough level of permission. This is really a blunder from MS
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  3. #343


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Wow. Who would have thought that this whole thing would have been caused by something like SkyDrive. And to think all this time, all of us thought it was something deeper than that. I am so thankful that you guys were able to find a solution to this. You are all truly amazing. Thank you, thank you for diligently sticking with this and finding the root cause of our problems. You guys are excellent troubleshooters. I will be giving reputation points to all of you for all of your hard work.

    A couple of questions for you:
    1. Do we still need to have a power override request for srvnet (e.g. powercfg -requestsoverride driver srvnet system)

    2. Can we now use Homegroup?
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  4. #344


    Hasselt, Belgium
    Posts : 75
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32/64


    Quote Originally Posted by robwnz View Post
    I also did an extra step over the group policy stuff

    To do this I went to the Windows 8 Start Screen, mouse to the top right and moved pointer down to click settings. Then at the bottom of the popup, I clicked change pc settings.
    I clicked on SKYDRIVE, and clicked SYNC SETTINGS. And where it said "Sync your settings
    on this PC" at the top, I changed this to off. Which greyed out all the options below. These options were all about syncing appearance and browser type stuff, not actual files.

    Because its skydrive related, there is no harm in disabling it as well.

    Cheers
    You can do this, but I didn't, because I noticed that by disabling that one 'Prevent'-thingy, all SkyDrive activity was already stopped. So, when Microsoft repairs this bug, I don't have to go through my whole configuration to restart all of those other things.

    Maybe I'm lazy, but hey, as long as it works, I'm happy.

    I personally liked it that when I added a website to my favorites, it was also added to all my other PCs. With SkyDrive disabled, this doesn't happen anymore. So, some of the stuff did work in SkyDrive, but only the new stuff they added. But the original function of SkyDrive, they broke and it messed up other things as well. Funny as hell, but made us waste a lot of time.

    @orbitalfenestra: I also looked at those two scheduled SkyDrive events, but they only run when the user is online and doesn't wake up the PC. I'm even wondering if they will do anything now, now that SkyDrive itself isn't running anymore. I for sure haven't noticed a problem from them in the past 2 days. My PCs are snoring like happy kittens now. (Well, they don't make any sound at all, but you get my drift, I hope. )
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  5. #345


    Hasselt, Belgium
    Posts : 75
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32/64


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Mas View Post

    The only thing I changed was enabling 'Prevent the usage of Skydrive for file Storage' . All the other settings are back to their original settings.

    My apps started working on their own the moment I enabled the above setting in Windows. I didn't need to reinstall them. But that won't say that all the apps you use will do this. I had only a problem with my Photos app. The few other apps, like weather, didn't have a problem on my system.
    Rudy, where is the 'Prevent the usage of Skydrive for file Storage' setting? Is that the correct wording as I cannot find it in any of the usual places. I need it to pass over to the folks at the Metro apps not working post.
    It's in your own explanation at message: Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep
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  6. #346


    Hasselt, Belgium
    Posts : 75
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32/64


    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhound View Post
    Wow. Who would have thought that this whole thing would have been caused by something like SkyDrive. And to think all this time, all of us thought it was something deeper than that. I am so thankful that you guys were able to find a solution to this. You are all truly amazing. Thank you, thank you for diligently sticking with this and finding the root cause of our problems. You guys are excellent troubleshooters. I will be giving reputation points to all of you for all of your hard work.

    A couple of questions for you:
    1. Do we still need to have a power override request for srvnet (e.g. powercfg -requestsoverride driver srvnet system)

    2. Can we now use Homegroup?
    I have never done the override request for srvnet, so I would say you don't need it. But maybe this is system depended. Although, I have three different systems here. My main PC is a Medion, my Laptop is a Toshiba, and my netbook is an Acer. All three have completely different hardware in it.

    I can't help you with Homegroup, because I have never used it. I prefer the old fashioned way of setting up my local network. Sorry.
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  7. #347


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    To answer some questions.

    1. I am logged into my Microsoft Live account and am able to sleep.
    2. I am using Homegroup.
    3. I never did an override request for srvnet.
    4. I found disabling the SYNC services in the Start menu PC Settings under Skydrive MIGHT get the computer to sleep faster.
    5. I have hibernation disabled but do not need to have done so. I just don't use it and it gets rid of the hibfl.sys on the root of C drive that just wastes valuable SSD space.

    So I am back to my usual configuration that I had before Win8.1 update was installed except for disabling Skydrive.

    Funny, I am reading Maximum PC about how the Win8.1 update "improves" Skydrive by integrating it more fully into the operating system. MS might have "integrated it" more than some would want.

    Rudy, that is a big DOH on my part! IT'S RIGHT THERE in front of my face. At least your were polite about it!
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 16 Nov 2013 at 20:45.
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  8. #348


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    To answer some questions.

    1. I am logged into my Microsoft Live account and am able to sleep.
    2. I am using Homegroup.
    3. I never did an override request for srvnet.
    4. I found disabling the SYNC services in the Start menu PC Settings under Skydrive MIGHT get the computer to sleep faster.

    So I am back to my usual configuration that I had before Win8.1 update was installed except for disabling Skydrive.

    Funny, I am reading Maximum PC about how the Win8.1 update "improves" Skydrive by integrating it more fully into the operating system. It might have "integrated it" more than some would want.

    Rudy, that is a big DOH on my part! IT'S RIGHT THERE in front of my face. At least your were polite about it!

    Awesome!! I'm going to remove my override request for srvnet and use my Homegroup now!! Thanks!
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  9. #349


    Posts : 26
    Windows 8.1 (64-bit)


    Uninstall the Network adapter and re-install it
    After that, under the Advanced tab in the Network adapter properties, Disable 'Shutdown Wake-on-lan'
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  10. #350


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhound View Post
    I don't necessarily want to throw a wrench in this, but did you know that there is a hidden registry setting for sleep? The setting is already activated and set at 2 minutes, but if you want to make changes to the setting, you will need to edit the registry. Here is more information:

    How to Add or Remove "System unattended sleep timeout" in Power Options

    Windows 7 Power Management: Fixing PC Insomnia (scroll down to the heading titled "What about Narcolepsy?")


    The reason why I bring this up is because I was wondering if those of you that have been able to successfully get sleep to work can verify that your computer is sleeping because of the timer settings under "Put the computer to sleep" time, as opposed to the "System unattended sleep timeout" time? Thanks for giving this a try!

    The "system unattended sleep timeout" time is specifically used for an unattended waking event such as WOL or a scheduled wake event. All other wake events would then follow the timer under "put the computer to sleep".

    For me, I found that two of my computers will sleep correctly on the "put the computer to sleep" time. However, the other computer will only sleep on the "system unattended sleep timeout" time, even if it wasn't an unattended waking event!! Ugh argh.
    So I just discovered what was causing this. It was happening on my laptop, but not on my two desktops. It was Hybrid Sleep. With Hybrid Sleep "ON", the laptop would not follow the normal sleep timer, but instead followed the "system unattended sleep timeout" timer. With Hybrid Sleep "OFF", the laptop follows the normal sleep timer. I wonder why this is? The two desktops sleep correctly on their normal timer with Hybrid Sleep "ON". Do you think it is possible that this laptop doesn't support Hybrid Sleep and it just defaults to the only other sleep timer that it knows?
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