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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #261


    Posts : 7
    Windwos 8.1


    @johnpombio: There are a lot of posts on TechNet and Microsoft Answers on this dating back to the 8.1 preview, which is where most of my investigations were sourced from. Most people probably don't leave their PC running all the time, so would never notice this issue. Windows 8.0 slept fine on my PC's, Windows 8.1 doesn't and MS have done a lot of tinkering with power management as part of the release to optimise for Surface 2 and battery life on newer architectures. This is the reason I think there may be a legacy hardware dependancy and newer PC's like the Surface 2 wouldn't show this issue. MS also cannot test every possible hardware combination, so the community will always find things that MS didn't (this is not Apple with only one hardware spec to account for, and even they get it wrong sometimes - recent trackpad bug on the new MacBook pro). However, MS won't fix every bug with the same priority, particularly if they are planning to retire the functionality in a later major version (as I think might be the case with HomeGroup with the drive towards cloud based sharing via SkyDrive).

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  2. #262


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    ajm, I also believe that this timer sleep bug is more widespread than we may think. There are a lot of people out there that either dont use sleep timer or just ignore the issue altogether.
    Regarding the Mac platform, I just wanted to say I recently installed Mavericks on my MBP and after testing for a while find it to be literally light years ahead of this crap of an OS that MSFT sold us!
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  3. #263


    Posts : 7
    Windwos 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by prism View Post
    ajm, I also believe that this timer sleep bug is more widespread than we may think. There are a lot of people out there that either dont use sleep timer or just ignore the issue altogether.
    Regarding the Mac platform, I just wanted to say I recently installed Mavericks on my MBP and after testing for a while find it to be literally light years ahead of this crap of an OS that MSFT sold us!
    Thats because Apple totally own the hardware, the software and optimise both to work together. Windows has to handle a plethora of different OEM hardware solutions, as well as carrying at least 10 years of legacy (which is a lifetime in the computer world). I am not making excuses here for MS, but the development and marketting models are very different. Maybe things will change when MS becomes a proper devices and services company. The point I am making is that even Apple let things through testing which hit users. The thing is that they are also able to move quickly to fix them, unlike Microsoft.
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  4. #264


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    Yes, I know what the reasons are but the bottom line of all this is that the superior Mac platform allows me to be more productive than that of MSFT. Anyways, Im not trying to open a debate or anything like that, I am, however, very eager to resolve this sleep timer issue! Hopefully that will happen soon!
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  5. #265


    Posts : 7
    Windwos 8.1


    @Prism. Agreed. Take a look back at some of my posts in this forum to see what I found out. Some of that may be use. Either way I believe we have to wait for a fix from Microsoft on this to fully resolve it. I will check the patches in December to see what thay have come up with.
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  6. #266


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    Ajm, I spent a lot of precious time trying out different solutions. The only thing that works reliably for me is to switch off Power svc. I dont change the timer once I set it, so even though it is not a perfect solution, I can live with it until something better turns up. I should also add that without Power svc, the display timer is broken which means that the screens continue to work in full power mode until the PC sleep timer kicks in. Not exactly ideal if you are seeking energy efficient solutions!
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  7. #267


    Posts : 60
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    All of these new suggestions are great. I'm so happy that we have a large community willing to help each other out. It makes life easier and more enjoyable when you know that there are others out there who are good at problem solving and want to share their knowledge.

    For me, I spent last week and weekend reformatting and reinstalling Windows 8.1 on all three of my computers. Yes, my wife agreed to let me re-image hers on Monday since it was a holiday. By the way, why is it that our local, state, and federal governments can take a day off on Veteran's Day, but not the schools? But I digress...

    I used my ISO of Windows 8.1 from Technet to reinstall Windows 8.1 on all three computers. After reinstalling it, many of my other issues went away and have not returned (e.g. Windows 8.1: Most Metro Apps crash immediately at launch). However, even after an absolutely clean install, sleep is still a finicky issue. I think AJM is on to something though. This definitely has something to do with Homegroup, network discovery, and/or srvnet.

    I don't think that this affects a small number of computers. I know a lot of folks that have builds very similar to all of ours. It's just that those folks never sleep their machines, so they have not observed the issue. It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist though.

    By the way, I was using Windows 8.1 Preview for a long time and I saw this same issue, but I didn't have the resources or expertise to solve it. Where we all are at today is basically where I was in late August of this year. You guys have found a few new tricks (e.g. stopping Power service), but essentially I'm at the same point. Disabling Homegroup and having a srvnet override request has worked for me for months. I was just really hoping to have Homegroup working. We can live without it though.

    I still think that Windows 8.1 is a fantastic OS. Microsoft has really come a long way over the years and they do listen to their customers and they build their OS with the user experience in mind. Windows 8.1 is a really cool OS with a bunch of great features unlike anything we've seen. This sleep issue is just a minor bug that needs to be worked out.
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  8. #268


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    Rockhound, no disrespect but FWIW I never activated homegroup, I just have one windows PC in my network so I dont need it, I also never got the srvnet issue when doing a powercfg request. I disagree that sleep timer is just a minor bug, if it is as widespread as I suspect it is, imagine the amount of wasted energy going on! MSFT did NOT listen to their customers with Windows 8. Instead they tried to force the tablet interface to desktop users that were very happy with the status quo. Not only did it lead to an incredible amount of confusion, wasted time and a relatively steep learning curve to adapt, but in the end they were forced to take a step back realizing that it wasn't a great idea after all. My next desktop will most probably run OSX but in the meantime, it would be a big deal to me if this "minor" issue were resolved. Hopefully we can find the solution on this forum, I very much doubt it will come from MSFT.
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  9. #269


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    since sleep was working for everyone on windows 8, is there any way to copy the power service from 8 to 8.1?? they shouldnt be much different....
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  10. #270


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    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    I asked that in a very different way, and I'm not sure it can be done, since I didn't get an answer. It surely would be nice if it could be done . . . maybe my question wasn't as clear as yours? Cuz mine can be clear as mud sometimes. I do know though, that a large number of folks are still using an older version of Mail than is supplied with their current OS, so why not the Power Service?

    Hey, batekha, maybe you'd like to try it? Cuz I ain't agonna!
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