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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #211


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Sigh . . . I finally disabled power service in msconfig.

    I am working on some stuff that requires physically checking some data against other, so went into the living room and checked. I came back into the "office" and my computer was asleep! I tapped the space bar on the keyboard and she woke up!

    OK, so some power saved and a few buckets of coal no longer dirtying up the environment on my account.

    At first I noticed that my mouse was a bit jiggly, but that smoothed out and no longer seems to be a problem. I guess he was just settling into his new surroundings.

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  2. #212


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Wynona, There could be several reasons for not sleeping. I do not expect that my problem/solution will fit all the woes here.
    Oh, yeah, I agree; however, to me it seems that the most prevalent one is the "power service" issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Sorry, you are correct about powered down does NOT do a cold boot and I edited my post. Fast startup means that even when you are powered down, processes and services are set BACK to the conditions on startup that they were in when you shut it down! Fast startup uses the HYBRID file to make BOTH restart and shutdown or shutdown/power down a Fast startup and NOT a COLD BOOT. Frankly, I am not sure HOW to do a cold boot with fast startup enabled.
    Guess what!?!?! I didn't realize it until I came back here to re-read this post, but I still have fast boot active. All I did today was to disable Power Service in msconfig.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Me, I solved the whole fast startup/hybrid thing by disabling Hybrid in the registry. It wipes out fast startup permanently and also eliminates the hibfile.sys that eats up space on my SSD.

    Hibernate - Enable or Disable - Windows 7 Help Forums OPTION 3
    I don't remember if I actually re-enabled Hybrid or not, but if I didn't, that's also disabled. However, I DID NOT go into the Registry and change anything there.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    What I am trying so far for WAKE issues, not sleep issues:

    * unplugging the USB mouse and USB webcam
    * disabling desktop background switching between photos. That has been flaky for a while where it is SOMETIMES stuck in one photo after a sleep/wake cycle so I am just using one photo for now.

    After these easy tries, I will have to tackle processes and services that are running/enabled when sleep works and when sleep does NOT work.
    FWIW, I have a Logitech Wave keyboard and Gear Head mouse (mouse mate to the Wave keyboard is still loose in the house somewhere), both wireless. All I had to do to wake the system was tap the space bar. Doubtful it would make a difference, but can you get your hands on a wireless KB & M?

    I am going to check out whether I have Hybrid enabled or disabled to (at the least) say whether it is or isn't.
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  3. #213


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    OK, John, here's what I've found:

    I went into my Advanced Power Options (Message #164) and Allow Hybrid Sleep is indeed turned off.

    So, bottom line is that I have turned off the Power Service and Hybrid Sleep isn't allowed. These are the ONLY two things I've done to this computer as far as sleep/wake are concerned.

    I am now going to leave the computer for awhile just to be sure she still sleeps, since I had to turn Power Service back on to check Hybrid Sleep options. I have now disabled it in msconfig and after sending this post, will restart the computer as required.

    Later . . .
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  4. #214


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    It's the thrill of the hunt, gentlemen and ladies. It is when we go past our comfort level that we start learning new things. I know a lot more about the computer now than I did when we started in this mad quest.

    "My destiny calls and I go!"

    So the mouse, webcam, and desktop background did not fix it. On to services listed in the task manager. My computer that has a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse sleeps fine. It's just this bad boy, my new Haswell computer.
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  5. #215


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    And the final analysis of Lady Dual Boot is that if I disable Power Services and disallow Hybrid
    Sleep to run, my computer goes to sleep when it's supposed to and wakes up if I tap the space bar or left click the mouse. Quite quickly, I might add.

    I will continue to monitor this thread because it's interesting and like you, John, I'm learning stuff too.

    Too bad I don't install stuff from the Windows App Store . . . I won't even start on that!

    Edit: I just thought about the fact that Hybrid Sleep was disallowed way before I stopped Power Service today, so that may not even be a contributing factor.

    Guess I should go back in and turn Hybrid Sleep back on and leave Power Service off to be sure?

    Mama, Mama, don't make me go back in dere! Dey's monsters in dat dark dank space!
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  6. #216


    Good luck with the hunt, John!! If we assume that there is just one thing causing the problem, we may see you back in a couple of months with the answer. BUT, if it is a combination of two things, ..................

    I just hate being beaten but yesterday's efforts really yielded very little. I did, however, find a stable sleep 30 sec after trigger with power svc on and minimal services/processes. Doesn't really help. Interesting if you could see whether this is repeatable on another system.

    Also tried shutting down Defender - no effect.

    I have also removed or disabled or swapped every device on my comp to no avail.

    Just as well I am retired and have time!

    Cheers,

    Lindsay.
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  7. #217


    @Wynona. Know what you mean about the dank spaces!
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  8. #218


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    @Wynona. Know what you mean about the dank spaces!
    OK, I'm going to make a suggestion that I wouldn't be willing to do, given that you've been through everything under the sun . . .

    Can you put everything back to default and then ONLY disable Hybrid Sleep and Power Service? As I found out, you gotta disable Hybrid Sleep before you disable Power Service. And, I didn't go into the Registry on Hybrid Sleep either. I just went into Advanced Power Options.

    Just a thought, since I have been so busy on other things that it's been all I could do to read this thread, never mind act on every suggestion.
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  9. #219


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Wyn, post 168 has all the settings that WILL cause sleep not to work on most systems. That is the baseline that you must try before moving on to the more "creative" workarounds here. Take screenshots when you are about to make a change or write them down. That way you can easily change back if it causes other problems. None of the changes does anything drastic tho, so they should be safe.

    Linw, I am retired too so that is why I both have the time and post at very weird hours day or night in the middle of the week, heh.

    I now have a screenshot of all the processes and services that were running when sleep was not working and just after a cold boot. Interesting that there are Start menu apps and the store in these lists. Now to compare the two. Only a couple of hundred services to compare, piece of cake.

    BTW, there is another post that I am following about how the Start Menu/Metro apps crash to desktop when they are run. Another victim of Win8.1 released version and as frustrating. Like this sleep issue, it is not very common and has only a couple of posts on the internet that I can find. I have had BOTH problems, but fortunately uninstalling and reinstalling fixed most of the apps. Newegg will still crash to the desktop tho.

    EDIT 2013-12-28 This did not fix the problem. For me, a MS update on Dec 11th fixed it. It also fixed my crashing apps.
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 28 Dec 2013 at 14:51.
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  10. #220


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Guys, my Windows Update just reports 415MB of updates (including Office, though) of which beside a couple of security patches there is one big 8.1 update of 199 MB. Let's see if this is finally it.
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