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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #201


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Mouse lag fix is NO FIX for sleep issue.
    Aaaagghhhhh! and here I was hoping to have resolved this incredibly annoying bug! I guess I will revert to stopping pwr service but will wait until the timer stops functioning again.

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  2. #202


    Just wasted over half a day trying to makes some progress on this frustrating issue. With minimal stuff loaded, and with Power svc on, I had it reliably sleeping 30 sec after the timeout. But it's not much use with only minimal files loaded.

    Tried fiddling in ASUS UEFI BIOS with power settings (Power Saving, Normal, Optimal). Not the answer.

    So, back to Power svc off and reliable sleep.

    I now believe we will be very lucky if we can find out what is wrong. And we could all have different problems! It needs someone who can read and understand system dumps to see what is, or is not, going wrong.
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  3. #203


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Got another piece to the puzzle. My computer would not sleep all day until I did a cold boot. Then it worked as it was supposed to. That is why I keep having these damn intermittent sleeps as some setting I would try would involve a reboot at some point. It then sleeps for a time until it eventually just....stops. So it is NOT A SLEEP ISSUE as much as a WAKE ISSUE. Something sometimes gets broken as the computer WAKES UP. Perhaps the computer is waiting for something to start back up again but doesn't so it keeps trying, keeping the computer awake. Pulling the network cable or disabling the POWER service must break this cycle. Notice that THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN SETTINGS OR UPDATED DRIVERS INVOLVED with this change in behavior. Mind you, there are some settings that may turn OFF the offending device/USB/peripheral. I am going to start removing things from the USB ports next.
    THIS IS A GUESS. Don't depend on it as a solution, heh.

    A SHUTDOWN (or a shutdown/power down) and RESTART is NOT the same as a cold boot as long as you have fast startup enabled. Disabling fast startup adds a little to the boot time but it is a cold boot. Here is how to change it and it shows the difference between fast startup and a cold boot:

    Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 8

    EDIT 2013-12-28 This did not fix the problem. For me, a MS update on Dec 11th fixed it.
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 28 Dec 2013 at 14:50.
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  4. #204


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Got another piece to the puzzle. My computer would not sleep all day until I did a cold boot.

    Try doing a complete shutdown and power off. A RESTART is NOT the same as a shutdown as long as you have fast startup enabled. Disabling fast startup adds a little to the boot time but it is a cold boot. Here is how to change it and it shows the difference between fast startup and a cold boot:

    Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 8
    John, I always turn my systems off at night, so I'm pretty sure I get a cold boot every morning. I tried disabling fast startup when I was trying to teach my Windows 8/8.1 system to turn on the NumLock key on bootup. I didn't notice all that much difference in startup times. But I turned it back on anyway cuz it didn't make the NumLock key active on bootup.

    So, are you saying I don't get a cold boot if I have fast startup turned on? Even on this dual boot system?
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  5. #205


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Wynona, There could be several reasons for not sleeping. I do not expect that my problem/solution will fit all the woes here.

    Sorry, you are correct about powered down does NOT do a cold boot and I edited my post. Fast startup means that even when you are powered down, processes and services are set BACK to the conditions on startup that they were in when you shut it down! Fast startup uses the HYBRID file to make BOTH restart and shutdown or shutdown/power down a Fast startup and NOT a COLD BOOT. Frankly, I am not sure HOW to do a cold boot with fast startup enabled.

    Me, I solved the whole fast startup/hybrid thing by disabling Hybrid in the registry. It wipes out fast startup permanently and also eliminates the hibfile.sys that eats up space on my SSD.

    Hibernate - Enable or Disable - Windows 7 Help Forums OPTION 3

    What I am trying so far for WAKE issues, not sleep issues:
    * unplugging the USB mouse and USB webcam
    * disabling desktop background switching between photos. That has been flaky for a while where it is SOMETIMES stuck in one photo after a sleep/wake cycle so I am just using one photo for now.

    After these easy tries, I will have to tackle processes and services that are running/enabled when sleep works and when sleep does NOT work.
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  6. #206


    Posts : 1,875
    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Frankly, I am not sure HOW to do a cold boot with fast startup enabled.
    shutdown /s /f /t 0 should do it.
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  7. #207


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Frankly, I am not sure HOW to do a cold boot with fast startup enabled.
    shutdown /s /f /t 0 should do it.
    Thanks Adam! It is the /f that forces running applications to close.
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  8. #208


    Posts : 1,875
    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    No idea about the sleep issue though - it just works for me. Good luck - you'll get there eventually
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  9. #209


    Hasselt, Belgium
    Posts : 75
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32/64


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Frankly, I am not sure HOW to do a cold boot with fast startup enabled.
    shutdown /s /f /t 0 should do it.
    Thanks Adam! It is the /f that forces running applications to close.
    /f just takes care that applications that don't want to shutdown are forced to shutdown. Else the shutdown procedure could sometimes be stopped by those applications. That's all.

    BTW, it is also the normal shutdown procedure of all Windows versions.

    If you added /hybrid to it, then you get the new Windows 8.x version of the shutdown.

    When Windows 8 came out, I already had made some shutdown buttons that did this for me. This way, I could choose if I wanted to do a Hybrid Shutdown or a complete Shutdown (cold boot), and I could avoid going into the charm menu for my shutdown.


    PS: It's now a few days, and with the service power disabled, my laptop keeps going to sleep. So, it seems that something connected with this service, or the service itself, is where the bug has to be found.

    I enabled it on my main PC again, and this one still won't go to sleep. For me, a sign we are getting closer to the problem. Now, if we could only find the single cause of the problem, we would be there. However, I'm not getting my hopes up, because I have already tried everything, I could think off. It's now out of my expertise level.
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  10. #210


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Mas View Post
    However, I'm not getting my hopes up, because I have already tried everything, I could think off. It's now out of my expertise level.
    Me too, im running out of options and this issue is turning out to be a very tough nut to crack!
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