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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #121


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    @prism, interesting, what's your ethernet adapter for a make? And what's your mainboard?

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  2. #122


    Thanks, John, for the understanding! And I have read all the posts in several threads!

    I am just trying to understand why my perfectly stable sleeper under W7 and 8 has reverted to a hit and miss one like several others have reported. My feeling is that the delay in going to sleep after the trigger is indicative of the problem and until the PC sleeps instantly, like it does manually, and like it does by running this code (C:\Windows\System32\rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState 0,1,0), we won't have fixed the problem of erratic results.

    Seems like the sleep process is given a low priority and other system work going on over rides it. I looked at files written to disk when the delay was in progress. They just seemed like system housekeeping with nothing obvious sticking out.

    Pity that safe mode removes the power sleep timer option.
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  3. #123


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    I did some heavy duty digging last night into how the computer sleeps. From Technet:
    System Sleep Criteria (Windows)

    ANY app or program not properly setting the SetThreadExecutionState can cause sleep to fail. Mind you, this is NOT JUST THE DESKTOP PROGRAMS, BUT THE METRO APPS AS WELL. There might be more to the Metro app crashes and the lack of sleep being just "coincidental". Maybe we should start uninstalling Metro Apps to see if any of those are affecting the computer. Ai-yi-yi.

    EDIT 2013-12-28 This did not fix the problem. For me, a MS update on Dec 11th fixed it.
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 28 Dec 2013 at 14:45.
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  4. #124


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve06 View Post
    @prism, interesting, what's your ethernet adapter for a make? And what's your mainboard?
    I'm running a Dell XPS 8500, Ethernet adapter is Realtek, not sure about the mobo.
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  5. #125


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    K, FINALLY removed Homegroup from the computer. Just leaving the Homegroup on a computer does NOT turn off the Homegroup. ALL the computers on the homegroup have to leave it. Then it is a matter of following the MPC article about creating and sharing using the Guest account making sure to turn password protection off. I also disabled IPv6 for good measure since I no longer need it for Homegroup. All the machines now share folders and go to sleep (but sleep is still not instant like when the network adapter is disabled).

    Crap. Now all my Metro apps are crashing again.

    EDIT: NO FIX. Problem came back intermittently a couple of days later.

    EDIT 2013-12-28 This did not fix the problem. For me, a MS update on Dec 11th fixed it.
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 28 Dec 2013 at 14:45.
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  6. #126


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    @john: do let us know if this really works permanently for you, i.e., even after long work sessions without re-logging in. Like you, I already quit all homegroup, ipv6, and other "fancy" services a week ago or so and still sleeps only works for a while after logging in.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Maybe we should start uninstalling Metro Apps to see if any of those are affecting the computer. Ai-yi-yi.
    This would be really ironic - re-establishing basic functionality (automatic sleep) by stripping the OS of most of its features. But I agree with you in that it would perhaps allow to find the culprit metro app. I can already tell you that just killing metro app processes does not help as they shortly appear again in your task manager's process list.
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  7. #127


    OK. At least for my machine, after stopping the 'Power' svc from starting, I get an instant sleep. All other svces are started.

    Where this leads I don't know. Interesting that it still knows that I have a 1 min sleep delay even without the power svc started.
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  8. #128


    Posts : 63
    Windows 8.1 pro 64bit


    I'm surprised there are no window app that force sleeps the PC (equivalent to manually putting it to sleep). Sleep issues have plagued the Windows OS in one form or another as far as I can remember! Or maybe there is an app and I am just not aware of it?
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  9. #129


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve06 View Post
    Maybe we should compare our hardware including Ethernet chipsets to find any patterns? For example, John, you have an Asus Z87-Pro board that has an Intel Gigabit controller. Many with troubles here have Realtek and Broadcom (like myself).

    Can anybody confirm they are having troubles while owning an Intel Ethernet adapter like John who managed to solve his problems?
    Steve, I'm not that well versed on this, but I have an Intel DG33 BUX mobo in this self-built system. Tell me what to look at and I will certainly do so. It's a dual boot system, with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit (won't take 64 bit).

    At any rate, I seem to remember that I have broadcom, but am not sure.

    Edit: It seems to go to sleep OK.
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  10. #130


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Two step s forward, one step back. My machines all sleep now BUT if I wake up one of the machines, the others wake up too! IPv6 definitely has to be disabled for sleep to occur, that I proved. One machine is so persistent that I will manually force it to sleep with a button on the keyboard and it will wake itself up as long as another computer is running. Then sleep for a bit, then wake up again. I have to turn the power off to get some sleep (me-it's in my bedroom and had all these LED bling lights I installed when it was my main machine)!

    I also found that pretty much ALL of the Metro/Start Menu apps crash to desktop once I disable Homegroup and IPv6 (not sure which of these two is the direct cause). Uninstall and reinstall of the apps fixes them (for good I think). ANSWER: Turning off Ipv6 will definitely crash the apps. I turned it on then turned it off and now the apps crash once again.

    Now to work on the waking up part. FIXED. the computers are really picky about shared folders. If they are not shared JUST RIGHT, it causes problems, waking up, asking for credentials, no files being shared, computers not showing up on the network. I just wish I knew exactly what I am doing, heh.

    EDIT: NO FIX. Problem came back and intermittent.

    EDIT 2013-12-28 This did not fix the problem. For me, a MS update on Dec 11th fixed it.
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 28 Dec 2013 at 14:45.
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