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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #1091


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro


    Hello bru,

    Thanks for that invitation. I think I will go through the entire thread and report my findings a few pages at a time. However, right now, as it stands, I would find it impossible to make any further determination because of the sheer enormity of responses involved. However, I have noticed that many of the 1,000 responses have been provided by a handful of participants so maybe I'll even take a post count as part of my survey.
    You asked:

    Do you not believe there is an issue because you don't have it?
    My immediate response to the above is:

    What makes you so sure it is a MS issue when the majority of the people are not reporting such sleep issues?


    Have a great day!

    SpringUpdate

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  2. #1092


    Posts : 149
    Windows 7 Home Premium on 2 Windows 8.1 on 1


    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    My immediate response to the above is:

    What makes you so sure it is a MS issue when the majority of the people are not reporting such sleep issues?

    I knew you were going to say that, I should have posted it.

    No one has claimed this will effect everyone. If it did hopefully it would have been fixed already. Its clear it doesn't. But enough have the issue, including people like me with brand new machines, that it proves its not a user induced issue (as was implied but another rude person on this thread).

    Would you not agree with that? Or are you still going to say it has nothing to do with M$? Plenty of people had trouble installing 8.1 Update 1, but many didn't. Do you feel that had nothing to do with M$ either?
    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    Have a great day!

    SpringUpdate
    Enough with this condescending tone. You know you don't mean it. You came here to stir the pot and upset people having the problem by claiming it is not really an issue because it hasn't happened to you. Plain and simple.
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  3. #1093


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I just reviewed the first 4 pages of this huge thread and here's what I discovered:

    8 unique posters reported a sleep-related issue
    6 (of the 8) found a fix for their specifics issues
    4 of the fixes involved disabling IPV6
    2 were fixed by removing themselves from a homegroup
    2 were left at unknown because I stopped reading at the end of the 4th page

    I am running Windows 8.1 Update 1. I have IPV6 enabled. I am also part of a homegroup. My sleep works. All my hardware is confirmed to be 8.1 compatible (including my router).

    Cheers and good luck to all.

    SpringUpdate
    Read the rest of the thread and you may find that the problem ultimately ended up returning for many of those posters. Also, even if they haven't reported back it may very possibly have returned. You are also tempting your own fate with such an overconfident post. If you think it can't happen to you then you are in for a rude awakening bro.

    Just curious, why are you so interested in this thread if you don't personally have an issue? Do you just read threads so you can provoke people?
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  4. #1094


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro


    as was implied but another rude person on this thread
    I beg to differ about "who" has shown rudeness when responding to others in disagreement.

    You are also tempting your own fate with such an overconfident post.
    Overconfident? I just stated the facts as they applied to my situation. It seems like no one is permitted to use the expression "mine works" in this thread or they are subject to ridicule from a select few. Maybe this thread should bear a different title like: "Only post here if you have a sleep issue. You have been warned!"

    Have a great day!

    SpringUpdate
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  5. #1095


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    as was implied but another rude person on this thread
    I beg to differ about "who" has shown rudeness when responding to others in disagreement.

    You are also tempting your own fate with such an overconfident post.
    Overconfident? I just stated the facts as they applied to my situation. It seems like no one is permitted to use the expression "mine works" in this thread or they are subject to ridicule from a select few. Maybe this thread should bear a different title like: "Only post here if you have a sleep issue. You have been warned!"

    Have a great day!

    SpringUpdate
    i think if you dont say mine works your ok ,i for one think your doing a good job by reading all the post and trying to find a common thread to the issue ,good job
    Last edited by caperjack; 20 Apr 2014 at 09:27.
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  6. #1096


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I just reviewed the first 4 pages of this huge thread and here's what I discovered:

    8 unique posters reported a sleep-related issue
    6 (of the 8) found a fix for their specifics issues
    4 of the fixes involved disabling IPV6
    2 were fixed by removing themselves from a homegroup
    2 were left at unknown because I stopped reading at the end of the 4th page
    Four pages doesn't nearly cover the number of folks who have this problem. Not even!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    I am running Windows 8.1 Update 1. I have IPV6 enabled. I am also part of a homegroup. My sleep works. All my hardware is confirmed to be 8.1 compatible (including my router).
    Disabling IPv6 and/or removing a computer from a home group leaves a computer with less than optimum performance in certain areas. I guess you didn't get to the part about "disabling" Power Config?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    I am running Windows 8.1 Update 1. I have IPV6 enabled. I am also part of a homegroup. My sleep works. All my hardware is confirmed to be 8.1 compatible (including my router).
    OK, here's a good one for ya . . . I bought this HP 500-056 Desktop machine with Windows 8 installed. It slept fine (I don't believe I've heard any complaints about Windows 8 not sleeping, but I could have missed 'em); however, NumLock isn't active on bootup, which is another thread.

    I updated to Windows 8.1 through the Store. This HP 500-056 developed insomnia immediately. IOW, she no longer would go into sleep mode, although I had Power Options set to go to sleep after 15 minutes of inactivity. Somewhere along the line, in the July/august time frame, Win 8.1 got corrupted and I attempted to use the recovery disks I'd made when I first got the computer, but no such luck! Upshot of the matter was that I had to send her back to HP for warranty repair. She came back the same as if I'd just bought her . . .

    I was gun shy, so I didn't upgrade to Windows 8.1 again until February or March 2014. If you read further down the thread, you'll discover that the December 2013 Windows Update automagically fixed a large number of computers with the no sleep/insomniac problem. Because my HP 500-056 had been among those with failure to sleep issues, I fully expected the same condition after updating to Windows 8.1 for the second time; however, one thing good about Windows 8/8.1 is that the Microsoft Store rolls all past updates into the "current" update you get. At any rate, since I didn't update to Windows 8.1 until after the December update, whatever fixed the sleep issue in that update was now included in my update and my computer slept as it should.

    And, of course, the April 8 Windows 8.1 Update left things intact and my computer still sleeps as it should.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    Cheers and good luck to all.

    SpringUpdate
    Interesting that you should pick SpringUpdate as your username . . .
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  7. #1097


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by SpringUpdate View Post
    Hello bru,

    Thanks for that invitation. I think I will go through the entire thread and report my findings a few pages at a time. However, right now, as it stands, I would find it impossible to make any further determination because of the sheer enormity of responses involved. However, I have noticed that many of the 1,000 responses have been provided by a handful of participants so maybe I'll even take a post count as part of my survey.
    You asked:

    Do you not believe there is an issue because you don't have it?
    My immediate response to the above is:

    What makes you so sure it is a MS issue when the majority of the people are not reporting such sleep issues?

    Have a great day!

    SpringUpdate
    Because when Microsoft releases an OS, a program, an update, etc., it's up to them to be sure that everything that's necessary to keep it running correctly is included.

    In the first place, Windows 8 was released with a set of system specs necessary to run it in both 64 bit and/or 32 bit mode. Using Microsoft's Update Adviser (or something like that), folks were told that their system either qualified or it didn't. With qualification information in hand, people paid Microsoft to update from their current OS to Windows 8. I was one of those whose system qualified for Windows 8 64 bit but wouldn't update to Windows 8.1 64 bit.

    Secondly, when Windows 8.1 was released, system requirements had been changed to be more stringent and folks who had 64 bit systems weren't allowed to update to Windows 8.1. Further, there was no information given to them that they could "drop back to 32 bit"; thus get the 8.1 update!

    I learned that fact from these forums! I'm not sure just how many of those whose systems "qualified for Windows 8" were left out in the cold with neither 64 bit nor 32 bit Windows 8.1 being able to install on their systems, leaving them with an OS that has less than half the life it would have if they could update!

    So, what has this to do with the sleep issue? Maybe nothing; maybe a whole lot . . . the fact remains that if Microsoft can mess things up this badly in this area, then they can mess other areas up too.

    Sure, it's a given that some of the problems are the consumer's fault; but all of 'em? With brand new systems? And what about the older systems that sleep vs a brand new system that doesn't sleep?

    Ask yourself . . . Why is it that Microsoft issues so many patches. Surely it couldn't be because they've made any mistakes!?
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  8. #1098


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Interesting ,Mac does the exact same thing ,my used mac was 10.6.3 when i bought it ,i updated after i bought it to 10.6.8 ,a few weeks later the app store showed a update to 10.7 ,an it was then i found out mine was not compatible to os 10.7 and they give me no option to make it compatible ,or released a 10.7 that is compatible ,point i think is that none of this is new in the computer world ,its been going on for years
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  9. #1099


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Interesting ,Mac does the exact same thing ,my used mac was 10.6.3 when i bought it ,i updated after i bought it to 10.6.8 ,a few weeks later the app store showed a update to 10.7 ,an it was then i found out mine was not compatible to os 10.7 and they give me no option to make it compatible ,or released a 10.7 that is compatible ,point i think is that none of this is new in the computer world ,its been going on for years
    Yeah, a friend of mine who swears by Mac says the newest version of Adobe Photoshop won't run on her older Mac, probably about the same age as yours.

    During my beta testing days on Windows Vista and Windows 7, we had an unofficial competition between us beta testers to see who could get Windows on the oldest system. Some systems ran slower than molasses in January but they ran! Don't buhlieve that would happen with a Mac! And, for what it's worth, I'm pretty sure that won't happen with Windows 8.1, which is a shame.
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  10. #1100


    Posts : 102
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro


    Hi Wynona,

    Please nail down one specific issue so we can get the ball rolling with Microsoft. As you are aware, Microsoft will require a condition that is identifiable and re-creatable to be able to address it with a patch.

    SpringUpdate
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