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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #1041


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    I really would like to know how to do uninstall. Is there a way short of hacking it out or nuke and pave?
    EDIT 2014-04-14 Deleted this part of this post that was inappropriate against other posters.

    Boulder and for others who are trying standby helper, give the program time to sleep. It took my computer a 3-4 minutes before it decided to sleep once the timer was up. Also make sure that the sleep function in the power setup for Win8 is close to the same or earlier.as what Standby Helper is set for. for instance, a one minute setting in standby helper should be matched like this:
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    Try this and get back to us with the results.

    EDIT 2014-04-14 Deleted this part of this post that was inappropriate against other posters.
    Last edited by johnpombrio; 14 Apr 2014 at 16:14.

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  2. #1042


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    not really following this thread ,and I'm not about to read all the post to see what's been suggested ,this site I have been reading has a few suggestions and some seem to work for some of the people who replied ,its likely you all have tried everything its suggest ,but I'll post it anyway hope it helps someone ,
    Windows 8.1 won't sleep | fixedByVonnie
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  3. #1043


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    I really would like to know how to do uninstall. Is there a way short of hacking it out or nuke and pave?
    Hippie threw a huge fit over a program he didn't even bother to try. There is no "install" on Standby helper. It is just an executable program stored in a folder. You either run it or you don't. Nothing is installed into any part of windows like the registry. AlexB said it best. Just don't run it and delete the folder. it's as benign as you can get.

    Boulder and for others who are trying standby helper, give the program time to sleep. It took my computer a 3-4 minutes before it decided to sleep once the timer was up. Also make sure that the sleep function in the power setup for Win8 is close to the same or earlier.as what Standby Helper is set for. for instance, a one minute setting in standby helper should be matched like this:
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    Try this and get back to us with the results.

    As for Hippie saying that I own this post, he is partially correct. NCGuy, Lin, Wyn, and other major helpers are the true owners, the ones that busted their butts trying to figure out what was wrong and found good workarounds or successful fixes and work hard to help others. What truly pisses me off are the arrogant posters who say its our fault since they don't have an issue and give "advice" (pages and pages of it) that does not help anyone. This forum can ban me but I will be damned before our hard work is dismissed so cavalierly without bitterly complaining about it. As for being off topic, I beg to differ. We are relentless and extremely focused here on exactly one problem and have been from the beginning of the post. We have made progress and have helped many a reader. Unfortunately, it certainly is getting HUGE, isn't it?
    I do intend to try it and I appreciate you and others that have further explained the configuration. I agree, there is a massive database of collected info here, and, like them or not, many workarounds for those unable to to actually tackle it.
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  4. #1044


    Good rant, John. Certainly gets my back up being told it is our fault because their system works fine! I've got a laptop that works fine, too, but that is irrelevant when it comes to my PC or anyone else's computer.
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  5. #1045


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    not really following this thread ,and I'm not about to read all the post to see what's been suggested ,this site I have been reading has a few suggestions and some seem to work for some of the people who replied ,its likely you all have tried everything its suggest ,but I'll post it anyway hope it helps someone ,
    Windows 8.1 won't sleep | fixedByVonnie
    Yep, the post's suggestions are all mentioned here at some point or another. And many of them have their problems. If you turn off IPV6, Homegroup is disabled and I use homegroup a ton. Powercfg was dissected here line by line, heh. A lot of the power settings shown are for a laptop so does not pertain to most of us. Finally, we tried pinning sleep and open Metro apps together without success. Frankly, I have a feeling that Vonnie read through our post but did not pick up the side effects or the lack of success we had with his suggestions. There is nothing new here, but considering the massive size of this post, I don't blame folks for not reading all the way through it.
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  6. #1046


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    not really following this thread ,and I'm not about to read all the post to see what's been suggested ,this site I have been reading has a few suggestions and some seem to work for some of the people who replied ,its likely you all have tried everything its suggest ,but I'll post it anyway hope it helps someone ,
    Windows 8.1 won't sleep | fixedByVonnie
    Yep, the post's suggestions are all mentioned here at some point or another. And many of them have their problems. If you turn off IPV6, Homegroup is disabled and I use homegroup a ton. Powercfg was dissected here line by line, heh. A lot of the power settings shown are for a laptop so does not pertain to most of us. Finally, we tried pinning sleep and open Metro apps together without success. Frankly, I have a feeling that Vonnie read through our post but did not pick up the side effects or the lack of success we had with his suggestions. There is nothing new here, but considering the massive size of this post, I don't blame folks for not reading all the way through it.
    After reading the article, I scrolled down and read the responses. Softlion posted a Device Manager "fix" that I don't remember seeing in this thread; however, even if it's been mentioned, proposing it again can't hurt and might help someone.

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    "Don't turn off IPv6 or HomeGroup.


    Instead disable "Allow this device to wake the computer" by unchecking the box in Device Manager > Network Adapter > (your network adapter's name) > Properties > Power Management.


    You can also, in "Advanced" (instead of "Power Management"), set the "Shutdown Wake-on-lan" / "Wake on packet magic" / "Wake on pattern match" propertie values to "Disabled"."
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    This is a very serious problem to those who have it. That said, a little sliding off topic can sometimes create some comic relief (StarFerret thinks so) and can give our minds a rest. If someone stumbles in and asks a question that seems to be a tad bit off topic, it can give us a little more to think about.

    Sometimes a break in routine will help . . . And now that the air is cleared, it would be good if Hippsie and John virtually shake hands and agree to disagree. As for those who stumble in here and say, "My computer doesn't have that problem, so it's your fault you have it" . . . well, I don't know what to do about them, but we can't let them continue to give wrong information, now can we. Not a fixable problem, eh?
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  7. #1047


    Posts : 149
    Windows 7 Home Premium on 2 Windows 8.1 on 1


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    take it back , I thinks it a 3rd party win8 driver or device issue not win8
    I saw it mentioned that driver updates can effect sleep, especially video drivers. I did a ton of updates out of the box to get to Win 8.1. I seem to remember an update for the Intel HD Graphics but I don't see one in Windows Update history or Installed Updates. When I check Device Manager the driver is dated 1/22/14 so it has to be an update since the computer was manufactured in 2013. It doesn't give me the option to roll back driver.

    I wonder if that driver update is the culprit. But again since my computer sleeps after a restart, until it doesn't I would think its not related to a driver. I don't know.
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  8. #1048


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    I really would like to know how to do uninstall. Is there a way short of hacking it out or nuke and pave?
    There is no "install" on Standby helper. It is just an executable program stored in a folder. You either run it or you don't. Nothing is installed into any part of windows like the registry. AlexB said it best. Just don't run it and delete the folder. it's as benign as you can get.
    John, I just noticed that the instructions someone posted for Standby helper said to point a shortcut to the executable from the start menu. Not sure how this loads into memory but this would have it load for each successive login of that user during the same machine session. Does it also fully unload on a log out? If not the same user could be loading it multiple times. Would it potentially make more more sense to load it one-time through a bootup startup task as opposed to the login start menu?
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  9. #1049


    My comp has that driver as well, bru. It had sleep problems before AND after the update!
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  10. #1050


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Win and NCGuy, Win, Turning off the network adapter's "allow to wake" was posted and a image of it was done as long ago as post 77.
    NCguy, think of Standby Helper as a on/off icon, like Steam. There is only the one icon in the notification field, and when you close the one copy, it's closed. Don't read anything more into it, some programs are just that simple. I strongly suggest running it to see how it works and how to turn it off. It does use some MS programs to run, but it is a script after all. I trust it to do absolutely no harm.

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