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What's the Point of Start Menu for NON Touch Screen PC?

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    What's the Point of Start Menu for NON Touch Screen PC?


    I'm struggling to see the purpose of the Metro Start Screen unless the computer has a touch screen. Other than the Apps and the few Live tiles - programs I've installed open on the regular desktop when I click on the tile. Am I doing something wrong, or is that the way it should be?

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    That's what Microsoft wanted for Windows 8 and it doesn't work for most of us. To each their own, if they like the Modern UI. There are 3rd party alternatives to return the Start Menu and button to the Desktop, such as Start8. There a bunch of them, some are free, some are not.
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    It is working correctly. Its a Menu to all your programs, either Metro or Desktop. To get full advantage you can arrange the tiles as you want them. It replaces the Start Menu from previous Windows.

    Jim
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    I'm using the Classic Shell Start program on the Desktop, which makes the Desktop fully functional for me. But my quandary is what do I miss if I never go look at the Metro screen at all? I don't mind it being there, lurking behind the scenes, but what does Microsoft really expect me to do with it if my equipment isn't touch?
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    I've always hidden all shortcuts on the desktop and kept what I wanted pinned to the taskbar, so I've always been able to arrange programs the way I wanted. I just don't "get" it.
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    You are not alone.
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    Covington, La
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    The Start Screen was designed for a dual purpose and designed to work with touch and keyboard/mouse. MS's vision is for the Metro apps to run on phones, tablets and desktops with the same basic GUI so if a person likes using their phone or table to access something, then they can still do the same on a desktop. On the desktop they just added access to desktop programs using the same GUI. Just a simple interface to the programs or apps you want in one place. If you never want to use a Metro app then you can use a 3rd party Start Menu like you are doing or just remove the Metro apps from the Start Screen and use it just for desktop programs.

    Jim
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    The metro screen is designed to deal with this problem:

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    In effect, the start menu has a finite fixed height. Once you get a certain number of items, then you have to figure out what to do... Microsoft has tried numerous things, such as cascading (as in the picture), scrolling (as in later versions of windows).. they changed it to be a different kind of scrolling in Windows Vista, which solved the infinite scroll problem to some degree, but the problem still existed for pinned start menu shortcuts. In addition, many people didn't really understand that you could scroll the Vista/7 start menu.

    Finally, menus require fine grained motor skills to navigate. If you have a disability.. are old, have parkinsons, or some other situation that doesn't give you good coordination, using menus is very difficult.

    All these things are address in the Start menu, plus making it more usable for touch based devices.
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    Finally, menus require fine grained motor skills to navigate. If you have a disability.. are old, have parkinsons, or some other situation that doesn't give you good coordination, using menus is very difficult.
    The high contrast themes are also helpful to those with certain disabilities.. MS don't keep flipping everybody into them.


    The real reason is to get their existing user base into their online services. MS is on a mission to monetise the consumers.
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    I see the purpose of getting a common interface for various touch devices, and I'm happy with 8 now that I'm finally used to it.

    But I won't be spending any money on APPS, nor will I be connecting everything to a Microsoft account login! Would be nice if there were some way to filter the store so ONLY free apps showed - not that I would be using very many of them, either!
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