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    Windows 8.1

    Eset Smart Security


    This is a warning for anyone that wants to try Eset Internet Security 7 Beta on Windows 8.1. I installed it this morning and thought everything went OK. When I tried to restart windows I got a message that Windows encountered an error had to restart. When the computer restarted I could not get Windows 8.1 to load. All it would do is give a message that Windows couldn't start and then it would reboot. I tried system restore and startup repair 3 or 4 times but they wouldn't work. I finally had to use system refresh to get Windows 8.1 to load again. Luckily I didn't have that much installed and it didn't mess up my Windows 8 install; so all I really lost was my time. One good thing did come out of it though. I found out that after a couple of unsuccessful starts Windows 8 will go to a screen with options for doing repairs or loading another operating system if you have one.

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  2. #2


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    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    Thank you for that advisement! You may have saved a few others from the associated headaches. BTW, don't try Avast 8 yet either (on 8.1) or you'll be posting another FYI.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 176
    Windows 8.1


    I'm to to stay with the Microsoft security programs for now. I guess it's best to try one beta program at a time. Now that I have 8.1 running again I'm going to start loading my programs to see how they run.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I find myself baffled that people seem to think nothing of installing these kinds of programs on beta OS's. They are very intrusive and need to have very intimate knowledge of how the OS works. As such, when a new version of the OS is released they will almost certainly need updates, and can cause damage to your system if you try to use them. This also includes anti-malware tools and firewalls.

    The same with tools like CCleaner, or other "optimizers", registry cleaners, etc... do NOT use them on beta versions of OS's unless they have specifically stated they are compatible. It's almost guaranteed they will break your system.

    Obviously, if you know the risks and are just curious about what will happen if you do, then by all means, go ahead. But you really need to expect that your system will be unusable afterwards more often than not.

    This is how it was when Windows 8 was released, Windows 7, Vista, XP SP2, XP, Windows 2000, etc... It seems that people keep making the same mistakes over and over.
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    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    I find myself baffled that people seem to think nothing of installing these kinds of programs on beta OS's. They are very intrusive and need to have very intimate knowledge of how the OS works. As such, when a new version of the OS is released they will almost certainly need updates, and can cause damage to your system if you try to use them. This also includes anti-malware tools and firewalls.

    The same with tools like CCleaner, or other "optimizers", registry cleaners, etc... do NOT use them on beta versions of OS's unless they have specifically stated they are compatible. It's almost guaranteed they will break your system.

    Obviously, if you know the risks and are just curious about what will happen if you do, then by all means, go ahead. But you really need to expect that your system will be unusable afterwards more often than not.

    This is how it was when Windows 8 was released, Windows 7, Vista, XP SP2, XP, Windows 2000, etc... It seems that people keep making the same mistakes over and over.
    You make a very good point; however, some of us have the extra resources to do such beta testing. BTW, thanks to my own beta testing efforts and the help of other posters in this forum (like Winuser), I can now safely say that I am running Win 8.1 and my installation is rock-solid at this point; however, I will ultimately end up breaking it again in my efforts to help others with their particular issues. However, the average user should heed your caution and wait for all the kinks to be worked out.
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    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    As I said, if you understand the risks, then go for it. I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm saying, however, that installing any tool like these has very high risk, and you shouldn't do so unless you are willing to accept those risks.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 176
    Windows 8.1


    The way I see it is that betas are for experimenting. If you try something and it doesn't perform they way you want then you uninstall it. I had very little to lose so I tried it. What did surprise me was the fact that system restore and start up repair couldn't fix the problem. If I had all my programs and files installed I would have done a back up first. I just wanted to warn anyone thinking about installing Eset Smart Security so they know what to expect before they do.
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  8. #8


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    ESET Smart Security installs a replacement firewall which may be interfering with the Windows FW. I'm using ESET Antivirus which is the same but without the Firewall.

    If you have an INstall Disk, you can use "System Restore" from the Install Disk to set your system to before you installed Smart Security. You can also do it from advanced boot options, but in order for that to work, you either have to have a dual boot or Auto Login shut off.
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  9. #9


    Posts : 176
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    ESET Smart Security installs a replacement firewall which may be interfering with the Windows FW. I'm using ESET Antivirus which is the same but without the Firewall. If you have an INstall Disk, you can use "System Restore" from the Install Disk to set your system to before you installed Smart Security. You can also do it from advanced boot options, but in order for that to work, you either have to have a dual boot or Auto Login shut off.
    Windows did ask me to insert the disc into the drive but System Restore and Startup Repair still would not work. I had to do a Repair Install to get Windows 8.1 to run. I didn't have that much installed so it wasn't a big deal to start over. Almost forgot,; I do have a triple boot; Windows 8.1, Windows 8 and Windows 8 Safe Mode.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Ok, that's what I've had to do several times. As long as you can get into some version of the Desktop even if it is the Black Screen of Death, if task Manager comes up then you can do an In-Place Install.

    Does the Smart Security Program work after you ran the In-Place install?
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