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Do you agree the Windows 8.1 Start Button is a Joke?

  1. #71


    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic77 View Post
    Windows 8.1 the best OS ever made !!!!!
    Just wait till you get W10 !!
    I just reread all posts on this topic and seen many play different tune after a while when get more familiar with W8/8.1.
    I would also like to thank all the whiners in the world for helping MS bring Windows 10 (and get rid of Balmer). So thank you whiners but not very much.

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  2. #72


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    w7 pro - ( Server 2012 build 9200 ) - Server 2016 - Mint 18.2


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic77 View Post
    Windows 8.1 the best OS ever made !!!!!
    Just wait till you get W10 !!
    I just reread all posts on this topic and seen many play different tune after a while when get more familiar with W8/8.1.
    I would also like to thank all the whiners in the world for helping MS bring Windows 10 (and get rid of Balmer). So thank you whiners but not very much.
    No, the button is not a joke because user feedback demanded it!
    It is the singular most important point of reference for many feedbackers.

    As far as 8.1 - it seems to be just more stuff added by user feedback or complaints.
    And 8.1.1 is even more stuff added by feedback!
    Pin to all apps - that's a good one - new highlights no start screen immersive search results!

    What about that touch centric metro desktop hybrid 10 button? Sub categories and sub nests are great
    No menu scrolling there

    No one needs to scroll thru a toolbar


    Since 8.0 is a total flop, my preference is to use the flop.

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  3. #73


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    s: XP, Win7, Win8, Ubuntu


    Have a dual-boot laptop with Windows 7/8. No touch-screen. On it, I almost never booted to Windows 8. The navigation seemed forced. And the Metro interface was intimidating... in that the apps are apparently disorganized. Compared to Windows 7, they just seemed strewn all over the place.

    Enter the tablet with the touch-screen. Has Windows 8.1 pre-installed on it. Now, with the touch of a button, it's like taking a full-color vacation into essentially another OS. The Metro interface is still way too disorganized, but it's not so intimidating, because there is a Windows button on the side that navigates me to the left, where the desktop panel is- if I want to get back to it quickly. With a touch-screen, I can swipe left and something happens. I can swipe right, and something else happens. When I'm in a Metro app, I can swipe down or up, and usually things happen there as well. All these swipe gestures were actually painful when using a mouse on a non-touch-screen laptop. This includes the Start button.

    Hope I answered your question.
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  4. #74


    Quote Originally Posted by dperecky View Post
    Have a dual-boot laptop with Windows 7/8. No touch-screen. On it, I almost never booted to Windows 8. The navigation seemed forced. And the Metro interface was intimidating... in that the apps are apparently disorganized. Compared to Windows 7, they just seemed strewn all over the place.

    Enter the tablet with the touch-screen. Has Windows 8.1 pre-installed on it. Now, with the touch of a button, it's like taking a full-color vacation into essentially another OS. The Metro interface is still way too disorganized, but it's not so intimidating, because there is a Windows button on the side that navigates me to the left, where the desktop panel is- if I want to get back to it quickly. With a touch-screen, I can swipe left and something happens. I can swipe right, and something else happens. When I'm in a Metro app, I can swipe down or up, and usually things happen there as well. All these swipe gestures were actually painful when using a mouse on a non-touch-screen laptop. This includes the Start button.

    Hope I answered your question.
    You didn't set 8.1 to work properly with non touch, gestures are not needed to work with the mouse.
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  5. #75


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    s: XP, Win7, Win8, Ubuntu


    You didn't set 8.1 to work properly with non touch, gestures are not needed to work with the mouse.

    ok. Didn't know that those could be changed/configured(?) Because you're right... gestures do not work at all with a mouse. It was hard to move the mouse into the left / right corners and sides to simulate gestures.

    Is that what you mean?

    This is probably (I'm guessing here) one big reason why Win8 was so unpopular when it first came out.

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  6. #76


    8.1 has usual minimize, maximize and close in top right corner in APPs as well as in desktop programs. If you drag up or double click on title bar it maximizes and dragging window left or right glues it to that side of screen. To start an APP or program you click on it icon just like any desktop program. Everything can be done usual way. If you like start menu like in Win 7, there are few programs like 8start that can provide it.
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  7. #77


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Ha! How old is this thread? Bfhaha! I'm intrigued with Windows 10, but I want to wait until there is an actual release, I don't wanna use the preview version.
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  8. #78


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    Ha! How old is this thread? Bfhaha! I'm intrigued with Windows 10, but I want to wait until there is an actual release, I don't wanna use the preview version.
    Most are using it as secondary system, dual boot or in VM, learning experience. This way I don't get too surprised when it goes final.
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  9. #79


    Windows 8.1 Pro is my everyday OS now, but only with the "Classic Shell" installed.

    I'm also testing Windows 10 on multiple platforms (PC's) and the attempt by MS to give us back the Start Button is really pretty lame.
    It's a far cry from the old "Metro" screen, but still lacking.

    It's workable if you're familiar with all the previous OS's, but for a total Nube, with NO training, it would be a disaster.

    I can just see my first install of a new PC, running Windows 10, as it is today. My customer will look at me and say something like "you've gotta be kidding me".....then I'll say, "Hey, I can fix that", and then I'll install The Classic Shell and set up their desktop to look just like their old Windows XP or Win-7 PC. My customer will be happy and I'll take my money and go home, knowing that I've got one more happy customer.

    Maybe Geeks, Nerds and Windows aficionados can use the Metro setup, but real PC users the world over hate it.
    A friend who works in a big box store tells me that over 30% of the PC's that they sell with Windows 8 or 8.1 on them, come back because people can't figure out what to do with them. That's so WRONG, in so many ways.

    It's like Chevy putting out a new model, with NO steering wheel, or foot pedals....nothing but a joy stick. They might sell a few to gamers, but the average driver would pass on that model. Eh?

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  10. #80


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    This will sound weird, but even though I've been using Windows since Windows 98, I've never made use of the start menu. Although I don't like Windows 8's version of it either, I really don't care. However, I still use the Windows Start Key on the keyboard quite often. Win + L, Win +R, and Win + Arrows I use all of the time.
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