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Do you agree the Windows 8.1 Start Button is a Joke?

  1. #31


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    But it has a lot to do with being forced to be online, subscription-based software, a blatantly net-centric OSand the lack of a proper windowed environment.
    Where do you keep coming up with these things that simply have not been said? Nobody said anything about subscription only based software. There's nothing inherently "subscription" based about Metro apps. Desktop apps can be subscription based as well (see Adobe's new CC tools, for instance, and they're completely desktop win32 apps). Most apps in the Windows store are free, some are one-time purchase. I don't know of a single metro app in the app store that's subscription based, other than stuff like Netflix in which it's an inherent subscription service.

    If you don't like subscription apps, don't buy subscription apps. Use the 10's of thousands of non-subscription apps.

    And again you keep assuming that Metro means you can't have a windowed environment. That most likely will not be true in the future. Again, If Metro can do everything that Win32 can do (including windows) then I fail to see what the complaint is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    I've been computing for over 25 years, most of that without the internet. With 20 or 30 windows open at once, sometimes. Today, I can still do that. Tomorrow, I will not, according to MS. Win 8.1 is my 'Vista', and I'll be giving it the big miss.
    Really? Please show me where Microsoft has said they will never support Windowed apps in Metro. I guarantee you they will in a future version, so this angst about it is pointless. You're working yourself up into a tizzy over something that is simply not going to be true. No, I don't have any proof that says they will support windowed apps in the future, but I'd be willing to stake my career on it being so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    If you like it, that's great, and I'm not knocking you for that. So why not just accept that I dislike, and have no interest in, the direction MS is headed, and leave it at that.
    You're making assumptions, and jumping to conclusions. I am as well, but your assumptions are illogical. Like assuming metro will only ever be one screen. This is a work in progress, it will eventually have all the same functionality as Win32.

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  2. #32


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    I was forced to switch to Microsoft Account to use calendar App
    The Calendar app is a client to the web service. Nothing prevents someone from writing a local only calendar application. Just because Microsoft doesn't provide one doesn't mean it's your only choice.
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  3. #33


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    I was forced to switch to Microsoft Account to use calendar App
    The Calendar app is a client to the web service. Nothing prevents someone from writing a local only calendar application. Just because Microsoft doesn't provide one doesn't mean it's your only choice.
    What I'm saying is that it was available as a local only calendar App in windows 8 but not in 8.1, so eventually I will be forced to log in to Microsoft account to use my PC, I don't like being dragged in to something I don't want to do.
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  4. #34


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    I was forced to switch to Microsoft Account to use calendar App
    The Calendar app is a client to the web service. Nothing prevents someone from writing a local only calendar application. Just because Microsoft doesn't provide one doesn't mean it's your only choice.
    What I'm saying is that it was available as a local only calendar App in windows 8 but not in 8.1, so eventually I will be forced to log in to Microsoft account to use my PC, I don't like being dragged in to something I don't want to do.
    Hi there

    Plenty of Calendar apps around -- you don't need to use the Ms web provided one - --what about one built in to your email client --that's probably the most useful one anyway I'd imagine.

    Most people I know use smart phones in any case for this type of app rather than a computer in any case - so your gripe IMO isn't a serious one.

    Also using the central one from Ms can cause a problem if you travel a lot or want to arrange say ONLINE meetings with work colleagues in different time zones. Quite a problem vis a vis UK / EU / FINLAND/RUSSIA etc.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #35


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Alright, Mystere...

    Against my better judgement, I've decided to sacrifice (waste?) a quarter of my monthly allowance to give this a try.

    Downloading now, and taking an image of my W8 setup.

    I'll get back to you... but I will be marking harshly.


    Wenda.
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  6. #36


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post

    Against my better judgement, I've decided to sacrifice (waste?) a quarter of my monthly allowance to give this a try.

    Downloading now, and taking an image of my W8 setup.
    Is it by using the Store method?
    That's what I used so far...

    Let's hope it's not a waste. I've installed that once, then i removed it, now I'm downloading it again, but it didn't worked the second time: no it was pending like forever so I stopped it, now it's the third time. But is seems to go faster which means the servers are less busy.

    Good luck with that particular download.

    If you get the ISO, it will be done more faster but through the Store, the preinstalled key will already be used, your programs will be kept, and you won't see any watermark (that was the case here anyway).
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  7. #37


    The start button has one feature, after a little adjustment. I cannot see the value of it though. If you right click the taskbar and select properties, then the navigation tab. Then select "Show apps view automatically...blah blah..
    , you will get all apps instead of just the modern menu. Is that useful? Not for me.
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  8. #38


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    The Store upgrade seems to be pending for ages... a bad joke they do.

    I remember that one particular folder was made on the C drive which contains all the downloaded files. Now, it's been downloading for about two hours and there is no folder, the status is pending...

    I don't like it.

    Paying for my mistake: I removed 8.1 and now I cannot put it back again.
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  9. #39


    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    Alright, Mystere...

    Against my better judgement, I've decided to sacrifice (waste?) a quarter of my monthly allowance to give this a try.

    Downloading now, and taking an image of my W8 setup.

    I'll get back to you... but I will be marking harshly.


    Wenda.
    LOL, Wenda! You're downloading this because you want the 8.1 Preview ISO in your collection of 1MIL+1 OSs aren't you?

    Not meaning to be critical, but you know darn well by now what the changes are.

    At least you'll experience it first hand.
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  10. #40


    Off topic:

    Welcome back, Mystere. It's good to see you posting again.
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