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  1. #151


    Posts : 375
    Win 8.1 64bit


    Anyone hear recent info on when 8.1 will be released to the public ? I read RTM at end of August.

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  2. #152


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    I've posted a few comments about NAVIGATION in Enterprise W8.1 -- if you install apps (Windows) they don't appear on the START screen anymore but only under APPS (a new SECOND screen) so a user could be very confused when installing applications - not seeing them initially on the START screen although of course you can pin them to the start screen AFTER installation.

    windows 8.1 - applications screen crazy navigation

    IE11 also seems to have shades of the VISTA UAC in it which you have to get round in order to get most websites to display without throwing up a lot of messages (Security levels etc). Mind you this is on ENTERPRISE -- maybe on the retail PRO version the default security restrictions are a bit less.

    Boot and general operation seem decently slick -- don't really care for OFFICE 2013 -- but while I'm testing !!! it does work but I'll stick with Office 2010 once I've got a stable W8.1 version.

    Networking seems to have a little problem though (Windows NETWORKING I think has ALWAYS had problems).

    Windows 8.1 computer can see and access a Windows 8 computer. The Windows 8 computer can't see the Windows 8.1 computer -- network discovery is ON on both machines -- both machines are x-64 ENTERPRISE version.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 01 Aug 2013 at 11:16. Reason: added Network problem
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  3. #153


    Michigan
    Posts : 50
    Windows 8.1 64bit


    I like the upgrades and added features of Windows 8.1, but I found in IE 11 modern mode not desktop mode a problem/bug.

    I use my home PC connected to a 60" flat panel monitor and in IE it is necessary to set the zoom level in order to read anything from across the room sitting on my couch. With the zoom set at 100% the screen looks like this.

    screen shot 1
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    Setting the zoom level to 125% the screen looks like this -

    screen shot 2
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    Closing IE 11 and then opening it back up it looks like this -

    screen shot 3
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    Notice the scroll bars - Click on refresh and the screen will display properly again like in screen shot 2. Close and reopen IE 11 and it's back to like screen shot 3 with scroll bars.

    This does not happen in the desktop mode, If zoom is set it will display correctly like in screen shot 2 all ways.
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  4. #154


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    All Apps Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    I've posted elsewhere but the Navigation in Enterprise is a bit stupid.

    The START screen shows the Metro tiles just like W8 - but APPS are shown on a second screen accessed via the DOWN arrow on the Start screen. Fortunately you can at least navigate back to the desktop directly without needing to use the UP arrow to get back to the start screen first.

    It would be more useful to show the APPS screen FIRST - especially on the Enterprise version which is what I'm using.

    OK they are pinnable to the start but what a dogs dinner of a mess --it means EVEN MORE WORK after installing any proper desktop type application.
    There is a hidden setting that makes the Start Screen default to All Apps mode.

    Start Screen - Open to Start or Apps View in Windows 8.1

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    Last edited by Brink; 02 Aug 2013 at 09:43. Reason: added tutorial link for more info
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  5. #155


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    That's better -- Documentation for Windows makes documentation for SAP seem absolutely wonderful --if you've ever used SAP or know people who have I'm sure you know what I mean.

    anyway +1 for you thanks.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #156


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    That's better -- Documentation for Windows makes documentation for SAP seem absolutely wonderful --if you've ever used SAP or know people who have I'm sure you know what I mean.

    anyway +1 for you thanks.
    W8 has the standard MS help files then.

    IMO, the last time MS released good help files was 10 years ago (Office 2003 and XP before that).
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  7. #157


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    yes, we all know that many do not want to change, old habits die hard.....so the desktop is mandatory for many.

    However, when doing as Lehnerus and Brink suggest, one can avoid the Start Menu. What more do you guys want?

    Jeff
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  8. #158


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    Jimbo Enterprise 80.1 can be nice as you suggest, but for me is a nono, i mean i am nog going to buy another license again.


    Jeff
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  9. #159


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    You can download an evaluation copy for 180 days BTW. Incidentally W8 will HAVE to be upgraded soon to W8.1 -- in spite of the horrors that IE11 can have - so eventually you'll have to use it -- or when you get a new PC it will be included anyway.

    I've down some testing on it -- here are some conclusions and results.

    https://www.eightforums.com/general-s...nterprise.html

    Although Enterprise version some of these might apply to the standard version too.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #160


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    However, when doing as Lehnerus and Brink suggest, one can avoid the Start Menu. What more do you guys want?
    The ability to see multiple Metro apps in overlapping Windows.

    I know 8.1 has improved "Snap" but from what I've seen, it still won't let me look at a spreadsheet in the top half of the screen and a PDF report (in Reader) in the bottom half. I need do to this sort of thing to do my job.

    No problem if you use only Desktop apps, as most people will at the moment, but if the push is towards developers writing Metro apps, Metro itself needs to become a better platform.

    Oh and a few other things - organising Start Screen Apps into subfolders for instance.
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