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  1. #131


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Any way to remove that fake start button?
    Hi there
    You gotta love this

    Users were complaining that there wasn't a start button -- now they want to remove it. !!!! Have to agree though it doesn't (at least in THIS release) seem to do anything sensible at all.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hehehe Jimbo,

    SO I WAS RIGHT ALL THE WAY.......from day one

    Jeff

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  2. #132


    Hafnarfjrur IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    I gave up on the standard version of Windows 8.1 -- however the Enterprise version seems to have fixed a number of niggling issues -- can't remember exactly what they all were but I gave up (and that was with a CLEAN install from the TechNet ISO PRO version).

    The Enterprise version seems (so far) to be a much better experience now -- There is obviously some difference between the PRO version and the ENTERPRISE version. Enterprise also seems much snappier all ways around and I don't have nearly as much trouble having multiple languages for both WINDOWS itself and OFFICE as the W8.1 PRO version gave.

    I'm still running OFFICE 2010 on 8.1 Enterprise and that works. (Incidentally Classic Windows 7 Games work as well !! I prefer the old Spider Solitaire, Hearts etc etc than the store new ones).

    With Enterprise though there's some fiddling around before the Store works properly -- but I don't give a monkey's toss about the store anyway -- I haven't needed it in any case. To activate though get into Cmd mode (administrator) and run SLUI 3 and then at the popup choose Change product number -- then enter the Serial number. Product will activate and then normal updates etc will work.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #133


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I never really understood that? The TechNet version doesn't ask for a product code during install and you have to jump though hoops to enter your TechNet product code to activate it?
    There is no Media Center in Enterprise and no way to add it. That won't matter to most but I thought I'd mention it before someone asks. I do believe enterprise has all the other features you'd find in Pro though, plus a few more.
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  4. #134


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Any way to remove that fake start button?
    Hi there
    You gotta love this

    Users were complaining that there wasn't a start button -- now they want to remove it. !!!! Have to agree though it doesn't (at least in THIS release) seem to do anything sensible at all.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hehehe Jimbo,

    SO I WAS RIGHT ALL THE WAY.......from day one

    Jeff
    The way I see it is people wanted the traditional Windows Start Menu but got a Start Button that did what Microsoft wanted it to do. Not what users wanted it to do. Then they said they were listening to customer complaints.
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  5. #135


    Hafnarfjrur IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I never really understood that? The TechNet version doesn't ask for a product code during install and you have to jump though hoops to enter your TechNet product code to activate it?
    There is no Media Center in Enterprise and no way to add it. That won't matter to most but I thought I'd mention it before someone asks. I do believe enterprise has all the other features you'd find in Pro though, plus a few more.


    Hi there

    You DON'T Have to activate the product unless you need to install specific updates from Microsoft. The same method of Activation is used in the Standard version of W8 Enterprise too.

    The reason for this is that the ISO is standard for all users who download the product - but the keys are UNIQUE to the individual subscriber who downloads the product - and Ms can keep tables on where and how the keys are used since the Enterprise versions are Multiple Activation.

    Also it enables some testing to be performed - so one can "try" to see if it's worth buying. I have a gripe with the standard Windows 8 in that you don't get a reasonable trial -- Windows 7 allowed 30 days before activation so you could perform quite a few changes to your hardware and do some configuration testing and activate after you had it all set up as you wanted to.

    As for Media center -- who really wants or needs it -- what's wrong with things like (FREE) VLC and other multi-media programs.

    (Actually the START button does exactly "what it says on the tin" -- Launches the START SCREEN. People should have asked for what they really wanted -- a MENU system !!! so be careful what you ask for -- the request might be answered in a different way to what you were expecting !!).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #136


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Exactly. The last thing wanted is something to launch into the despised Metro. The oligophrenic squares are what many are trying to avoid.

    A 21 yr old girl with an 8 machine said to me "It is very annoying. I don't want apps on my laptop, that is what my phone is for."

    She has recently finished University. She is not stupid or uneducated, maybe that has something to do with it. She could not return the machine as it was a gift.

    The other 3 people I know who had win 8 machines have got rid of them.

    A button to take them into those ghastly squares would have annoyed them even more, ( if that is possible).



    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Any way to remove that fake start button?
    Hi there
    You gotta love this

    Users were complaining that there wasn't a start button -- now they want to remove it. !!!! Have to agree though it doesn't (at least in THIS release) seem to do anything sensible at all.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hehehe Jimbo,

    SO I WAS RIGHT ALL THE WAY.......from day one

    Jeff
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #137


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    ...A 21 yr old girl with an 8 machine said to me "It is very annoying. I don't want apps on my laptop, that is what my phone is for." ... She has recently finished University ...
    Last time I checked, a phone is for talking, a.k.a. the telephone.
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  8. #138


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    You are showing your age......
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  9. #139


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    The way I see it is people wanted the traditional Windows Start Menu but got a Start Button that did what Microsoft wanted it to do. Not what users wanted it to do. Then they said they were listening to customer complaints.
    I am disappointed that they brought back the start button in 8.1. I liked it blank.
    It is easy to add a menu to Windows.

    I am going to miss this.

    Click image for larger version
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  10. #140


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It is a deliberate and cynical move. MS deserve a bloody nose for it.
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